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Bob K 01-30-2010 10:10 PM

quasar05, unfortunately we have a problem in Fl. It's called the Bill Nelson disease. It affects vision and hearing. We need to get him outta there.

Rich Z 01-31-2010 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by quasar05 (Post 107329)
The thing that frustrates me is that some worn out hippie broad or some clown from Nevada or some left wing district in Boston has any impact on my life. I didn't have a chance to vote for, or against, these fools, so why should they have any influence on anything to do with people in Florida.

If the federal government would obey the restrictions placed on it by the US Constitution, then certainly that would reduce the influence they can have on local issues. The US Constitution was actually a very effective design, but it presumed that it would be instituted upon honorable persons placed in office. And it also presumed that "the people" would not allow the government to amass the power over "the people" that has now taken place due to abject complacency and apathy. The problem is that at this late date, it would likely take bloodshed to wrest that control and power from their grasp. A price most people just are not willing to pay because they have been wrapped within a numbing blanket of false security and just don't see the need. And unfortunately quite a few people really believe that they can make substantial improvements via the ballot box. Seriously, look at the choices you are FORCED to make during election day. If you can really call that a "choice"...

gmjunkie 01-31-2010 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Z (Post 107334)
If the federal government would obey the restrictions placed on it by the US Constitution, then certainly that would reduce the influence they can have on local issues. The US Constitution was actually a very effective design, but it presumed that it would be instituted upon honorable persons placed in office. And it also presumed that "the people" would not allow the government to amass the power over "the people" that has now taken place due to abject complacency and apathy. The problem is that at this late date, it would likely take bloodshed to wrest that control and power from their grasp. A price most people just are not willing to pay because they have been wrapped within a numbing blanket of false security and just don't see the need. And unfortunately quite a few people really believe that they can make substantial improvements via the ballot box. Seriously, look at the choices you are FORCED to make during election day. If you can really call that a "choice"...

:iagree::iagree::iagree:

:thumbsup:

ironhorse 01-31-2010 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Z (Post 107296)
Obviously she considers us poor lowly citizens to be "obstacles" to her wishes. That's the problem with a lot of these idiots. They forget WHY they were voted into office in the first place. To REPRESENT us, not RULE us.


Hey Rich, it's King Obamination and his court...:ack2:

Bob K 01-31-2010 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Z (Post 107334)
If the federal government would obey the restrictions placed on it by the US Constitution, then certainly that would reduce the influence they can have on local issues. The US Constitution was actually a very effective design, but it presumed that it would be instituted upon honorable persons placed in office. And it also presumed that "the people" would not allow the government to amass the power over "the people" that has now taken place due to abject complacency and apathy. The problem is that at this late date, it would likely take bloodshed to wrest that control and power from their grasp. A price most people just are not willing to pay because they have been wrapped within a numbing blanket of false security and just don't see the need. And unfortunately quite a few people really believe that they can make substantial improvements via the ballot box. Seriously, look at the choices you are FORCED to make during election day. If you can really call that a "choice"...

While almost everything you say is true I do disagree. The voters can make a difference. We need term limits and there's only one way that can be done. Vote em out. Our voices need to be heard. They heard us last week via the MA election. That got their attention.

We need to get Congress back into the middle of the road and working together. We can only do that at the ballot box.

As for the bloodshed comment I do agree most Americans would not fight. I am not in that category. If Obuma ever succeeded in his Socialist form of government and tried to take away my rights and guns they would have to kill me to gain access to my home and guns. I don't think that day will ever come but I have thought about it and I know what I would do.

quasar05 01-31-2010 08:43 AM

Then we have Alan Grayson from Orlando and equally crazy Corrine Brown from Jacksonville (And all gerrymandered regions in between)
This is what represents some of us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgbBP9Em00A

Bob K 01-31-2010 08:55 AM

I watched 2 minutes of the video and couldn't take anymore. I almost feel like I should go vomit.

ironhorse 01-31-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob K (Post 107362)
I watched 2 minutes of the video and couldn't take anymore. I almost feel like I should go vomit.


That is so sad, can't begin to put into perspective...Hopefully, people in this great country of ours will wake the F**k up!:ack2:

Bradzvette 01-31-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ironhorse (Post 107363)
That is so sad, can't begin to put into perspective...Hopefully, people in this great country of ours will wake the F**k up!:ack2:

I'm wide awake, always have been. :D

Cheers

Bob K 01-31-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bradzvette (Post 107367)
I'm wide awake, always have been. :D

Cheers

That's a start. Are you helping to make a difference? I'm sure you are but people have to realize it's a 2 step process.

1. Wake up
2. Vote


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