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Unread 04-01-2010, 09:08 AM   #1
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Default Can OnStar Be Turned Off!???

2009 Convertible with all of the bling, including OnStar. Talk about invasive, and yeah, I even extended my 'telephone minutes' and get this e-mail regularly warning me about my 2lbs low on the front, left tire and the inherent dangers of low tire pressure. GMAB!

So, am thinking, can this monster [OnStar]report other data e.g. max RPM (during break-in, voiding warranty), speeds, for the LEO's to correlate to a time (say I had an accident), and all sorts of 'big brother info'.

Can OnStar be turned off, if so, HOW, is the specific question?
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Unread 04-01-2010, 10:04 AM   #2
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Yes, you can disable the service; however, it's my understanding that you can't remove the equipment without setting off a ton of codes.

To disable, remove the antenna (slide to side and remove) and pull the fuse...viola...no omre comms with OnStar

Simplest way would have been to order the car without it in the first place.

If you're not interested in it. you may be able to have the dealer or an aftermarket service company, uninstall it for you.

I wouldn't worry so much about OnStar reporting your errant ways as I would the CDR, (Crash Data Recorder), normally referred to as the "Black Box."

It generally records the last 5-15 seconds of an event for accelleration, braking, yaw, position, blah blah blah blah.....
Law enforcement, and insurance companies may access this information. You (and the other guys) insurance company at will.
Law Enforcement with a subpoena.

Removing it will not only void the warranty, it will (IIRC?) disable your passive restraints (airbags and such). Doing this does a couple of things:

1) Voids the warranty
2) Likely violates Federal Law (have to research it again but I believe that's the case
3) Sets you up for SERIOUS LIABILITY issues in the event of a crash where anyone else, either riding in your car or another car, is injured. (Sets a presumption of your intent to violate the law)
4) Eliminates or seriously impaires your opportunity/ability to recover damages if you're injured in the car, even as a result of someone elses negligence.

I'm sure I missed something, but you get the drift

And by far, that CDR and you OBD system are your biggest enemies when it comes to dealerships and thier warranties.

Hope that helps some.
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Default Thanks Shadow...

I may or may not have introduced myself but am new to the auto scene, specifically the Corvette. In response to your very, very informative reply, I didn't special order the car but purchased it off of the lot with just about every known option, so OnStar came with it. I likely would have passed on it as well as the Navigation system, but, it's there.

While I may have erroneously focused on OnStar I am/was totally unfamiliar with the [crash data recorder] CDR and had no idea of its existence. I will likely do some research (lazy man, Google) to learn more about CDR's. All I can say to all of this is 'wow' how little [we/I] know about what's being recorded in our lives!

Thanks for great reply and the time it took you to respond!
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I may or may not have introduced myself but am new to the auto scene, specifically the Corvette. In response to your very, very informative reply, I didn't special order the car but purchased it off of the lot with just about every known option, so OnStar came with it. I likely would have passed on it as well as the Navigation system, but, it's there.

While I may have erroneously focused on OnStar I am/was totally unfamiliar with the [crash data recorder] CDR and had no idea of its existence. I will likely do some research (lazy man, Google) to learn more about CDR's. All I can say to all of this is 'wow' how little [we/I] know about what's being recorded in our lives!

Thanks for great reply and the time it took you to respond!
No problem my friend. Always happy to help and aboard. Not only to the site, but the addiction called Corvette

If you have any specific questions, please feel free to PM me and I'll hook you up with some answers

The CDR can be your best friend or your worse enemy.....

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Greg at Anticenom said to remove the fuse. I also want my Onstar to become offstar.
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