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Unread 12-13-2009, 11:07 AM   #1
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I am sorry to tell you all about my dealings with Xtreme Motorsports, It's been horrible I won't get into it here but I have no avenue left but to go through the court system because they won't even respond. I've read their posts about customer service and friends and helping. Trust me it's not what they believe.
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Unread 12-13-2009, 04:39 PM   #2
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Now you have your own thread in which to bitch your heart out.

Please be specific in your complaint(s).

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Unread 12-13-2009, 04:44 PM   #3
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I am sorry to tell you all about my dealings with Xtreme Motorsports, It's been horrible I won't get into it here but I have no avenue left but to go through the court system because they won't even respond. I've read their posts about customer service and friends and helping. Trust me it's not what they believe.
I'm sorry to hear this as well. There is a marketing axiom that says a bad experience will be retold at least 9 times. I hope they will recognize that whether or not they are wrong, they have a responsibility to offer exemplary service and make the customer happy.

Best wishes to both of you.

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Unread 12-13-2009, 06:27 PM   #4
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Quite honestly, unless you are willing to provide specific details and who you actually are, this is just anonymous noise that has absolutely NO credibility whatsoever.

So either pony up and state your case in detail, or cease with the anonymous and vague factless complaining.
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Unread 12-13-2009, 07:18 PM   #5
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While I can understand your wanting to defend one of your own, There is a very thin legal line in which I have to dance. I do find it slightly funny that the post was removed from the "Chris is so great thread". While I also don't want to insult Rich, I kind of find your post to be slightly rude. Ask Chris what the facts are, I don't know if you'll get the truth but to insult someone for saying they had a different experience is a bit out of line.

Fact is I am an unhappy customer and someone who used to call Chris and Keli my friends. I am someone who has been ignored for months by them and have tried everything I could to come to a peaceful resolution. This was a last resort and it seems to have caught some attention.
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Unread 12-13-2009, 07:32 PM   #6
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Technically you've already broken that thin legal line, by even speaking out against them in someones thread bashing the company.

Whats been said and quoted can be used against you as slandering since this is a open and public forum....if you've really got a case against them.

If this is the attention you're looking for, its more then likely not going to be on your side.
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Unread 12-13-2009, 08:05 PM   #7
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Actually by simply stating that I had a bad experience and that I don't believe that the customer experience I had is the same as the ones others have had is not bashing nor is it crossing a line. You are right about it being a public forum I have the right to express an opinion based on personal experience.
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I agree. Without simply stating the facts along with your OPINION concerning those facts, and instead just saying "SO AND SO IS BAD, DON'T DEAL WITH THEM!", you are giving them legal grounds to file suit against you for defamation and libel. The point and reason of your post is not to display facts, nor is it to relate your stated opinion. It is designed simply to do damage to another party's reputation. Which, if your claim of seeking legal redress is true, will likely be filed in the form of a countersuit against you if you actually are filing a lawsuit.

But if that is the way you want to play your hand, more power to you. I'm betting that if you actually have an attorney and tell him or her about what you posted here, you will likely get dropped like a hot potato.

That is MY opinion on this matter.
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While I can understand your wanting to defend one of your own, There is a very thin legal line in which I have to dance....Ask Chris what the facts are, I don't know if you'll get the truth but to insult someone for saying they had a different experience is a bit out of line.

Fact is I am an unhappy customer and someone who used to call Chris and Keli my friends. I am someone who has been ignored for months by them and have tried everything I could to come to a peaceful resolution. This was a last resort and it seems to have caught some attention.
(Edited by Shadow-different person's complaint-don't want to air someone elses laundry)

As for "protecting one of our own", you're way out of line there.

I can personally attest that Rich will one of our own if they were to treat a member poorly.

That's exactly why this part of the forum was created

To give everyone a place to address grievences, answer grievances and send/recieve attaboys, and to do so without interference.

Unlike many larger sites, we don't "cater" to our vendors. Rich doesn't even "require" them to pay for advertising! Since it's not a "for profit" enterprise, what does he have to gain?

Do this on many other sites and the thread would be locked/deleted, and you might find yourself warned or worse.

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I do find it slightly funny that the post was removed from the "Chris is so great thread".
Now, as to why it was moved.

That was ME, not Rich.
He had nothing to do with it, was unaware of my actions, and wasn't consulted.

If you have an issue with MY actions here, please direct them to ME. You can PM or call me, either is fine.

Nothing is going to change unless I'm instructed to do so by the Admin, but you're certainly welcome to discuss them with me.

That thread was not a "Chis is so great" thread! It was a member who is trying to help his Disabled Veteran brother. Chris' shop just happened to be the ones offering to help him do so.

Interfering in that thread by regurgitating the same exact diatribe exhibited in other threads regarding the shop, was simply uncalled for and out of line.

IMO as moderator, I saw it as an effort to derail the thread.

That's not gonna happen on my watch

Instead, I gave you your own personal thread to say whatever you wish.

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While I also don't want to insult Rich, I kind of find your post to be slightly rude.
Would you care to be more specific? Exactly which part of his comment did you find "rude?"

In reading it, I found it to be almost spot on.

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to insult someone for saying they had a different experience is a bit out of line.
Please point out the "insult." I failed to see it.

As Rich and some others have alluded to, if you have a specific grievance to air, feel free to state facts and air it. No need to post up pictures and all that unless you just want to. But facts, at least your side of them, would be more than helpful.

If you have an attorney though, you might want to speak with them first before you give away all your ammo

Finally, as Rich has stated, to make derogatory comments, remarks damaging to ones personal or business reputation, that can not be supported with FACT, is SLANDER. Placing them in writing is LIBEL.
Redgress of grievance can be sought in civil court for either or both.

And yes, this is a PUBLIC forum, but it's PRIVATELY OWNED

You, me, and everyone else here, is here by invitation And that invitation can be revoked at any time. As well, commentary "can" be limited.

The owner, although he chooses not, has the right to limit commentary in any way he see's fit, and there's absolutely no recourse on behalf of the poster.

So please, if you want to air your grievances, by all means, this is the time and place; however, please support your complaint when possible.

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Unread 12-13-2009, 09:52 PM   #10
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Actually I have never spoken to you before, My name is Liz so Sir is the wrong directive.

I am not sure what facts for proof I can give you, would you like phone records? bank statements? It's always a he said she said when it comes to business.

I have done nothing but stated I had a bad experience and I got jumped on. How about asking the facts from Chris? Does he have to prove that I didn't get the **** end of the stick?

As to moving the post I can understand your decision but it seems unfair that when everyone is saying they had a good experience, I can't offer an opposing POV. That's my point.

As for Rich I PMed him and had a discussion privately. The way it should have been handled.
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