What do we do ? Who do we vote for if it ends up being Clinton vs. Mc Cain? I can't stand either one so what do I do sit home? I can't bring myself to vote for either one of these! I appreciate McCains service to our country but that should not be a free ticket to the White House! He is no more conservative than his good buddy Kennedy ... What are you going to do??
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What if Clinton vs. McCain??
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third party or write in your own. Either way we're screwed. Id rather it be on Hill-dogs watch than a Republicans. If she wins, hopefully when it comes time to elect a new congress, the Republicans will win the majority and level things out, much they they did to slick Willy in '94.
als2052
Road Trip!
Unfortunately the politics in this country is not perfect so we have to make with what we have meaning we have to elect the lesser of both evils. Given the choice you have presented, my choice would be McCain. Clinton just has too much baggage for me to handle. At least McCain has been tried and tested over the years and we know what to expect. Now if Huckabee had half a chance, I would be leaning in that direction. Just my .02.
Guro305
Heathen
Yeah but every independant and all conservative democrats do, and that's what will put him over. Als2052 is right, it's always the choice of the lesser of two evils. I give Als2052 $.03!
EllisJuan350
Official Youngin
Well I know if clinton wins, I might be switching to colder climates. Canada isnt that far away right?
This is a good article!
Ann Coulter Vows to Stop 'President McCain'
Monday, February 4, 2008 9:10 AM
By: Philip V. Brennan Article Font Size
Some Republicans may be rallying around Sen. John McCain as the GOP’s best hope of winning in November, but best-selling author and conservative firebrand Ann Coulter would rather stick to her principles and give up the White House to Hillary than to see the Arizona senator as the White House’s new resident.
In an exclusive interview with Newsmax.com, Coulter explained in great detail why she is so adamantly opposed to John McCain, even to the point of backing Hillary Clinton as a last resort.
Newsmax: Is a pro-abortion socialist-in-everything-but-name Hillary Clinton administration preferable to a McCain administration?
Coulter: McCain's record is as bad and liberal as Hillary's. But her badness is expressed when she's seeking Democrats' votes. If McCain were in front of Democrats he'd sound like Herbert Marcuse. And don't tell me McCain is better on the war. Campaigning in front of Code Pink types, Hillary has repeatedly said she will hit terrorists hard, and hedged her bets (thereby losing votes) on whether she'd execute a quick pullout from Iraq.
This probably makes her as tough as McCain, especially since he's busy sniffling into his handkerchief about the tragedy of Guantanamo. As to the domestic commie stuff Hillary peddles, I think she'll do a lot less damage than McCain, because he would co-opt Republican congressmen. They would fight Hillary. We're imperiled by both of them — but I think Hilary presents fewer risks.
Newsmax: What do you find most objectionable about McCain?
Coulter: That, on the litmus issues of our time, only partially excluding Iraq, he is a liberal. He apparently excoriated Samuel Alito as too "conservative." He promoted amnesty for 20 million illegal immigrants. He abridged free citizen speech (in favor of the media) with McCain-Feingold.
He opposes [drilling in] ANWR and supports the global warming cult, even posturing with fellow mountebank Arnold Schwarzenegger in front of solar panels. Yes, he supported the surge, along with every other Republican worth mentioning, but he would shut down Guantanamo — the most successful rat trap in our nation's anti-terror fight — and he joins Code Pink in calling the Bush administration "torturers."
Oh yeah, he originally voted against the Bush tax cuts, but now says he would support them. And he libels our miraculous drug companies as "crooks." Can I take a breath?
Newsmax: Is there anything he could do that would allow you to support him against Hillary or Obama?
Coulter: He's 71 years old. He's not changing.
Newsmax: Is there any hope of stopping McCain before the convention?
Coulter: As true conservative Ronald Reagan would say, there is always hope in America.
Newsmax: Isn't the conservative base powerful enough to stop McCain if they will unite behind Romney?
Coulter: If rallied to their senses.
Newsmax: If Huckabee could be persuaded to quit and throw his support to Mitt, would that do the trick?
Coulter: Yes. Good Idea. Tell Huckabee.
Newsmax: Why Is Huckabee not backing Mitt?
Coulter: 1. Like McCain, he lives for praise from the MSM and 2. he is hoping to be McCain's VP choice.
Newsmax: Could we wind up with a wide-open brokered convention, and if so, who would you support?
Coulter: I believe the "brokering" is now going on for McCain. I will trust the people. Mount your horses and ride to the sound of the guns!
Newsmax: How should those attending CPAC [Conservative Political Action Conference] react to McCain when he speaks? Is it possible that CPACers could extract enough commitments from him to make him palatable?
Coulter: On the reaction front, with courtesy to be sure. After all, we are not liberals. But I do wish someone would ask him to explain the laundry list in my second answer. And no, there are no extractions that make him supportable.
Newsmax: Do you really plan to campaign for Hillary if McCain is the GOP nominee?
Coulter: I will campaign against John McCain until Inauguration Day, which, God willing, will not be his.
Newsmax: What do you recommend conservatives do?
Coulter: Write in "Mitt Romney: or — if it’s close — vote for Hillary.
Newsmax: Do you agree with Pat Buchanan that if the Republican Party nominates McCain it will lose its soul?
Coulter: Neither the Republican Party nor the nation will be likely to recover inasmuch as in the end, it will lead to a takeover by Mexico and 30 years of Democratic rule.
Newsmax: Does it have a soul?
Coulter: Yes, as do humans — contrary to liberal dogma.
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Ann Coulter Vows to Stop 'President McCain'
Monday, February 4, 2008 9:10 AM
By: Philip V. Brennan Article Font Size
Some Republicans may be rallying around Sen. John McCain as the GOP’s best hope of winning in November, but best-selling author and conservative firebrand Ann Coulter would rather stick to her principles and give up the White House to Hillary than to see the Arizona senator as the White House’s new resident.
In an exclusive interview with Newsmax.com, Coulter explained in great detail why she is so adamantly opposed to John McCain, even to the point of backing Hillary Clinton as a last resort.
Newsmax: Is a pro-abortion socialist-in-everything-but-name Hillary Clinton administration preferable to a McCain administration?
Coulter: McCain's record is as bad and liberal as Hillary's. But her badness is expressed when she's seeking Democrats' votes. If McCain were in front of Democrats he'd sound like Herbert Marcuse. And don't tell me McCain is better on the war. Campaigning in front of Code Pink types, Hillary has repeatedly said she will hit terrorists hard, and hedged her bets (thereby losing votes) on whether she'd execute a quick pullout from Iraq.
This probably makes her as tough as McCain, especially since he's busy sniffling into his handkerchief about the tragedy of Guantanamo. As to the domestic commie stuff Hillary peddles, I think she'll do a lot less damage than McCain, because he would co-opt Republican congressmen. They would fight Hillary. We're imperiled by both of them — but I think Hilary presents fewer risks.
Newsmax: What do you find most objectionable about McCain?
Coulter: That, on the litmus issues of our time, only partially excluding Iraq, he is a liberal. He apparently excoriated Samuel Alito as too "conservative." He promoted amnesty for 20 million illegal immigrants. He abridged free citizen speech (in favor of the media) with McCain-Feingold.
He opposes [drilling in] ANWR and supports the global warming cult, even posturing with fellow mountebank Arnold Schwarzenegger in front of solar panels. Yes, he supported the surge, along with every other Republican worth mentioning, but he would shut down Guantanamo — the most successful rat trap in our nation's anti-terror fight — and he joins Code Pink in calling the Bush administration "torturers."
Oh yeah, he originally voted against the Bush tax cuts, but now says he would support them. And he libels our miraculous drug companies as "crooks." Can I take a breath?
Newsmax: Is there anything he could do that would allow you to support him against Hillary or Obama?
Coulter: He's 71 years old. He's not changing.
Newsmax: Is there any hope of stopping McCain before the convention?
Coulter: As true conservative Ronald Reagan would say, there is always hope in America.
Newsmax: Isn't the conservative base powerful enough to stop McCain if they will unite behind Romney?
Coulter: If rallied to their senses.
Newsmax: If Huckabee could be persuaded to quit and throw his support to Mitt, would that do the trick?
Coulter: Yes. Good Idea. Tell Huckabee.
Newsmax: Why Is Huckabee not backing Mitt?
Coulter: 1. Like McCain, he lives for praise from the MSM and 2. he is hoping to be McCain's VP choice.
Newsmax: Could we wind up with a wide-open brokered convention, and if so, who would you support?
Coulter: I believe the "brokering" is now going on for McCain. I will trust the people. Mount your horses and ride to the sound of the guns!
Newsmax: How should those attending CPAC [Conservative Political Action Conference] react to McCain when he speaks? Is it possible that CPACers could extract enough commitments from him to make him palatable?
Coulter: On the reaction front, with courtesy to be sure. After all, we are not liberals. But I do wish someone would ask him to explain the laundry list in my second answer. And no, there are no extractions that make him supportable.
Newsmax: Do you really plan to campaign for Hillary if McCain is the GOP nominee?
Coulter: I will campaign against John McCain until Inauguration Day, which, God willing, will not be his.
Newsmax: What do you recommend conservatives do?
Coulter: Write in "Mitt Romney: or — if it’s close — vote for Hillary.
Newsmax: Do you agree with Pat Buchanan that if the Republican Party nominates McCain it will lose its soul?
Coulter: Neither the Republican Party nor the nation will be likely to recover inasmuch as in the end, it will lead to a takeover by Mexico and 30 years of Democratic rule.
Newsmax: Does it have a soul?
Coulter: Yes, as do humans — contrary to liberal dogma.
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If Ann Coulter has all the answers, perhaps she should put het feet under the fire like the candidates do. I don't agree with all of McCain's opinions and I certainly don't want the White House tainted with another Clinton. I do like Mitt Romney but I also think he will lose to McCain for the Republican nomination. So my vote will be for McCain unless Obama can beat Clinton.
Here is another slap for Mc Cain, he cannot get elected with out the conservative base! lets hope for a Romney turn around!
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Buchanan: Don't Like McCain? Vote Hillary
Tuesday, February 5, 2008 8:05 AM
By: Philip V. Brennan Article Font Size
John McCain is running on a platform that says your jobs are not coming back, the illegals are not going home, and we are going to have more wars, writes Pat Buchanan.
Buchanan advises, "If you don’t like it, vote for Hillary."
In an American Conservative column entitled "The Great Betrayal," Buchanan examines McCain's record on a host of issues, and to most conservatives, it's not a pretty sight.
He finds McCain's "arresting prediction" that we will face more wars scary, quoting the Arizona senator as saying “It’s a tough war we’re in. It’s not going to be over right away. There’s going to be other wars. I’m sorry to tell you, there’s going to be other wars. We will never surrender, but there will be other wars.”
He compares Eisenhower's and Nixon's successful efforts to end the wars in Korea and Vietnam with honor to McCain's warning that we may be in Iraq a hundred years and that, “there’s going to be other wars.”
Says Buchanan, "Take the man at his word."
McCain, he writes, "has joked about 'bomb, bomb, bomb — bomb, bomb Iran' and urged the expulsion of Russia from the G8 . . . wants to expand NATO to bring in Georgia and the Ukraine" creating "confrontation between Russia and the United States over whether South Ossetia and Abkhazia should be free of Georgia or ruled by Tbilisi, a matter of zero vital interest to this country."
All this, Buchanan says, is a forewarning that John McCain intends to be a war president, and forecasts that "if Bibi Netanyahu again becomes prime minister of Israel, he and a President McCain will find a pretext for war on Iran."
On many of the great issues, he adds, "McCain has sided as often with the Left and the Big Media as he has with the Right."
His indictment of McCain outlines his offenses:
he voted twice against the Bush tax cuts.
He "colluded to sell out the most conservative of Bush’s judges, and in 1993, voted to confirm the pro-abortion liberal Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
He formed the "gang of 14," seven senators from each party, when Bush set out to restore constitutionalism. All agreed to vote to block the GOP Senate from invoking the “nuclear option”— i.e., empowering the GOP to break a filibuster of judicial nominees by majority vote — unless the seven Democrats agreed.
With that record of voting for Clinton justices and joining with Democrats anxious to kill the most conservative Bush’s nominees, Buchanan asks "what guarantee is there a President McCain would nominate and fight for the fifth jurist who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade?"
He colluded with liberals to pass McCain-Feingold, "a law that denies to Second Amendment folks and right-to-lifers their First Amendment right to identify friends and foes in TV ads before national elections."
On condemning drilling for oil in Alaska's ANWAR he sides with the liberals, and has moved toward Gore on global warming.
He collaborated with Senate liberals in the McCain-Kennedy amnesty, which was rejected only after a national uprising, failing to do what is needed to control America’s borders and halt the invasion through Mexico.
Buchanan concluded that "on the two issues where Bush has been at his best, taxes and judges, McCain has sided against him. On the three issues that have ravaged the Bush presidency — the misbegotten war in Iraq, the failure to secure America’s borders, and the trade policy that has destroyed the dollar, de-industrialized the country, and left foreigners with $5 trillion to buy up America — McCain has sided with Bush."
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I am not a fan of Buchanon but he does have his facts correct!
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Buchanan: Don't Like McCain? Vote Hillary
Tuesday, February 5, 2008 8:05 AM
By: Philip V. Brennan Article Font Size
John McCain is running on a platform that says your jobs are not coming back, the illegals are not going home, and we are going to have more wars, writes Pat Buchanan.
Buchanan advises, "If you don’t like it, vote for Hillary."
In an American Conservative column entitled "The Great Betrayal," Buchanan examines McCain's record on a host of issues, and to most conservatives, it's not a pretty sight.
He finds McCain's "arresting prediction" that we will face more wars scary, quoting the Arizona senator as saying “It’s a tough war we’re in. It’s not going to be over right away. There’s going to be other wars. I’m sorry to tell you, there’s going to be other wars. We will never surrender, but there will be other wars.”
He compares Eisenhower's and Nixon's successful efforts to end the wars in Korea and Vietnam with honor to McCain's warning that we may be in Iraq a hundred years and that, “there’s going to be other wars.”
Says Buchanan, "Take the man at his word."
McCain, he writes, "has joked about 'bomb, bomb, bomb — bomb, bomb Iran' and urged the expulsion of Russia from the G8 . . . wants to expand NATO to bring in Georgia and the Ukraine" creating "confrontation between Russia and the United States over whether South Ossetia and Abkhazia should be free of Georgia or ruled by Tbilisi, a matter of zero vital interest to this country."
All this, Buchanan says, is a forewarning that John McCain intends to be a war president, and forecasts that "if Bibi Netanyahu again becomes prime minister of Israel, he and a President McCain will find a pretext for war on Iran."
On many of the great issues, he adds, "McCain has sided as often with the Left and the Big Media as he has with the Right."
His indictment of McCain outlines his offenses:
he voted twice against the Bush tax cuts.
He "colluded to sell out the most conservative of Bush’s judges, and in 1993, voted to confirm the pro-abortion liberal Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
He formed the "gang of 14," seven senators from each party, when Bush set out to restore constitutionalism. All agreed to vote to block the GOP Senate from invoking the “nuclear option”— i.e., empowering the GOP to break a filibuster of judicial nominees by majority vote — unless the seven Democrats agreed.
With that record of voting for Clinton justices and joining with Democrats anxious to kill the most conservative Bush’s nominees, Buchanan asks "what guarantee is there a President McCain would nominate and fight for the fifth jurist who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade?"
He colluded with liberals to pass McCain-Feingold, "a law that denies to Second Amendment folks and right-to-lifers their First Amendment right to identify friends and foes in TV ads before national elections."
On condemning drilling for oil in Alaska's ANWAR he sides with the liberals, and has moved toward Gore on global warming.
He collaborated with Senate liberals in the McCain-Kennedy amnesty, which was rejected only after a national uprising, failing to do what is needed to control America’s borders and halt the invasion through Mexico.
Buchanan concluded that "on the two issues where Bush has been at his best, taxes and judges, McCain has sided against him. On the three issues that have ravaged the Bush presidency — the misbegotten war in Iraq, the failure to secure America’s borders, and the trade policy that has destroyed the dollar, de-industrialized the country, and left foreigners with $5 trillion to buy up America — McCain has sided with Bush."
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I am not a fan of Buchanon but he does have his facts correct!
