• Got the Contributing Memberships stuff finally worked out and made up a thread as a sort of "How-To" to help people figure out how to participate. So if you need help figuring it out, here's the thread you need to take a look at -> http://www.corvetteflorida.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3581 Thank you, everyone! Rich Z.

1999-2002 PCM into 1997-1998 Swap

ArchetypeZ28

Alchemist
We here at EFI Alchemy wanted to put together some pictures to try and give '97-'98 LS1-powered vehicle owners a better idea of what is involved in an '02 PCM swap and what advantages there are to doing this conversion.

The first thing you should ask yourself is, "Do I need to do this?" My answer when people ask me this varies according to the goals of the customer. If the vehicle owner only has plans for a simple bolt-on N/A set of modifications, then generally speaking the '97-'98 PCM will prove adequate. Once you start thinking of large cams, head swaps or any kind of forced induction or nitrous, then I highly recommend you swap in the newer PCM as a building block to build a foundation for all of your future modifications.

What you gain from doing this conversion is similar to upgrading your home computer from Dos to Windows XP. Overall, you gain greater resolution for fueling and spark, which allows much greater control of what is happening inside your engine and greatly improves drive ability. True real time tuning via a Moates Roadrunner PCM also becomes available to the '97-'98 owner upon completion of this swap. Having the ability to make any adjustment on the fly in real time opens up a lot more possibilities for tuning and any custom systems you may want to add to your car. Lastly, it also brings all of EFI Live’s free custom operating systems to the table, with features such as the on-the-fly ability to pull timing and add fuel for nitrous or expanded map tables for forced induction.

The basic idea of performing this swap involves removing all 300-320 wires from the PCM connectors, and remapping them into the correct positions for the '02 PCM. Unless the harness is damaged, this does not require any wires to be cut, simply pulled, and replaced into new positions on the PCM connectors. The pictures shown here are from a '97 Corvette that we completed this conversion on.

First step is to remove your old PCM and pull back the wiring loom to expose the PCM connectors and PCM harness wires.
swap1.jpg


Once you have the old PCM removed and the wires are accessible, it is time to start removing the wires from the PCM connectors. This part requires A LOT of patience. You need to be sure to only remove and label one wire at a time. Once you are done and have them all pulled and labeled, it should look something like this:
swap2.jpg


Now it's time to start re-inserting the wires back into the PCM connectors in their new locations. Go slow and be patient, it will save you a huge headache later on!
swap3.jpg


Once you have all of the wires replaced into new positions, you can take some time, wrap up the harness and make it look like it came from the factory.
swap4.jpg


All wrapped up.
swap5.jpg


New PCM mounted in the car via new '02 Corvette PCM mounts.
swap6.jpg
 
All stock functions are retianed?

Key fobs
Tire sensors
Knock sensors
etc?

Lots of differences after 98.

Did it throw any codes when fired up?

Pretty cool. May do it to mine.

Thanks
 
I changed everything from my firehawk over to 2002 EVERYTHING especially the fuel tank...lol (had a doner car) I just had to get away from everything 99 and under for once.

Makes tuning allot snappier also, less of a pain in the pumpkin
 
As far as I can remember, yes everything is retained. I will double check with Doc on that just to make sure.

Cool.

I apprweciate the info.

Another question, how do you get a valid vin to flash the computer?

I'm scouring ebay now for a 99-02 computer. Want to get it installed before the 383 engine gets done. EFI live is on the way. Time to learn how to tune. :thumbsup:
 
Time to learn how to tune. :thumbsup:

Whewwww good luck !!
EFI live is not as easy as most think...

We have a customer down in West Palm who bought EFI live and was gonna tune it himself and well....he's now our customer...LOL... He was amazed how fast Chris is with EFI and said "if I had a 1/10 of his knowledge I would be trouble when it came to tuning"

He told us he tuned before and never thought it would be any more difficult ...

He has since sold his EFI live!


GOOD LUCK !:thumbsup:

Hope its not like that for you , cause EFI live is a good thing lottss of customers want it !!
 
Cool.

I apprweciate the info.

Another question, how do you get a valid vin to flash the computer?

I'm scouring ebay now for a 99-02 computer. Want to get it installed before the 383 engine gets done. EFI live is on the way. Time to learn how to tune. :thumbsup:

EFI Live does not care about the vin. You can put your current vin in and it will work fine. EFI Live is great tuning software, just do research on it and take your time learning it.
 
Thanks

Being a reading/special ed teacher for 15 years has taught me to read and follow directions very well. Add in 12 years of computer IT/software experience I think I have a small advantage over most beginners. I have done all my own work on the vette thus far, (engine swap, h/c, clutch, diff, headers, etc., etc.) why stop now? LOL

And lastly my engine builder is going to help me out getting started tuning as well. :thumbsup:

I chose EFI becasue the forums for them seem much more helpful the HP tuners. I have researched this for almost a year before finally making the plunge.

Thanks again
 
Thanks

Being a reading/special ed teacher for 15 years has taught me to read and follow directions very well. Add in 12 years of computer IT/software experience I think I have a small advantage over most beginners. I have done all my own work on the vette thus far, (engine swap, h/c, clutch, diff, headers, etc., etc.) why stop now? LOL

And lastly my engine builder is going to help me out getting started tuning as well. :thumbsup:

I chose EFI becasue the forums for them seem much more helpful the HP tuners. I have researched this for almost a year before finally making the plunge.

Thanks again


Yes you would have an advantage !!! I hope that helps you tons !! You will catch on just like they say though take your time with it :)
 
Thanks

Being a reading/special ed teacher for 15 years has taught me to read and follow directions very well. Add in 12 years of computer IT/software experience I think I have a small advantage over most beginners. I have done all my own work on the vette thus far, (engine swap, h/c, clutch, diff, headers, etc., etc.) why stop now? LOL

And lastly my engine builder is going to help me out getting started tuning as well. :thumbsup:

I chose EFI becasue the forums for them seem much more helpful the HP tuners. I have researched this for almost a year before finally making the plunge.

Thanks again
If you need help, send a message to Doc on the EFILive forums. Just tell him I sent you.
 
The rewiring could proceed much more quickly if you obtain two new PCM connectors. Then you can move each wire directly from old position to new without needing to label the wires. Before you start you should prepare a complete list including wire colors. Then follow the list carefully. Disclaimer: This is just an idea. I am an electrical engineer and have done similar jobs but I have not rewired an F-body PCM.
 
maddox45

Well
A Mechanic did a swap on my 1998 when he read it here, but, I have several codes that relate to 2002 pcm only, therefore, some inputs aren't the same.
Also,
If you get stuck in a small Town & it breaks, forget Chevrolet helping you.
I have Twin Turbos and I couldn't tell any difference in Performance.
 
We here at EFI Alchemy wanted to put together some pictures to try and give '97-'98 LS1-powered vehicle owners a better idea of what is involved in an '02 PCM swap and what advantages there are to doing this conversion.

The first thing you should ask yourself is, "Do I need to do this?" My answer when people ask me this varies according to the goals of the customer. If the vehicle owner only has plans for a simple bolt-on N/A set of modifications, then generally speaking the '97-'98 PCM will prove adequate. Once you start thinking of large cams, head swaps or any kind of forced induction or nitrous, then I highly recommend you swap in the newer PCM as a building block to build a foundation for all of your future modifications.

What you gain from doing this conversion is similar to upgrading your home computer from Dos to Windows XP. Overall, you gain greater resolution for fueling and spark, which allows much greater control of what is happening inside your engine and greatly improves drive ability. True real time tuning via a Moates Roadrunner PCM also becomes available to the '97-'98 owner upon completion of this swap. Having the ability to make any adjustment on the fly in real time opens up a lot more possibilities for tuning and any custom systems you may want to add to your car. Lastly, it also brings all of EFI Live’s free custom operating systems to the table, with features such as the on-the-fly ability to pull timing and add fuel for nitrous or expanded map tables for forced induction.

The basic idea of performing this swap involves removing all 300-320 wires from the PCM connectors, and remapping them into the correct positions for the '02 PCM. Unless the harness is damaged, this does not require any wires to be cut, simply pulled, and replaced into new positions on the PCM connectors. The pictures shown here are from a '97 Corvette that we completed this conversion on.

First step is to remove your old PCM and pull back the wiring loom to expose the PCM connectors and PCM harness wires.
swap1.jpg


Once you have the old PCM removed and the wires are accessible, it is time to start removing the wires from the PCM connectors. This part requires A LOT of patience. You need to be sure to only remove and label one wire at a time. Once you are done and have them all pulled and labeled, it should look something like this:
swap2.jpg


Now it's time to start re-inserting the wires back into the PCM connectors in their new locations. Go slow and be patient, it will save you a huge headache later on!
swap3.jpg


Once you have all of the wires replaced into new positions, you can take some time, wrap up the harness and make it look like it came from the factory.
swap4.jpg


All wrapped up.
swap5.jpg


New PCM mounted in the car via new '02 Corvette PCM mounts.
swap6.jpg

This is an excellent mod as there is so much more that can be done as far as tuning parameter, etc.

EFI Alchemy is also one of the competitors that I have great respect for as a top notch shop and one of the better tuners around.

Excellent info! Keep posting more of these, this is what the vette community needs. Shared knowledge.:thumbsup:
 
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