How many of you guys have a Concealed Weapons Permit?
 

I got one as soon as I could after moving down to Florida. I wasn't allowed to have one when I lived in Maryland.

Maryland is a 'may issue' state which means they probably won't.

Here's a good link, especially if you're going to travel.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/

got mine, applied for it the day after i turned 21 and haven't been a day without it since (good for 5 years so after my last renewal i am good until 2013). Georgia's is stupid easy to get when compared to Florida's.

I think in '08 they went to 7 years. You must have just missed it.

my wife got hers in 2009 and my father in law got his a few months ago and all are 5 year.

this may have changed when HB308 was passed and it changed from a Firearms License to a Weapons License. they clarified a lot of the gray areas in the law and may have extended the date on it because the cost did go up.

OK, I just checked and this is a quote and a link.

"Florida Concealed Weapon or Firearm Licenses issued on or after Wednesday, June 11, 2008, are valid for a period of seven years. "

http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/renew.html

I wonder what the deal is?

i am in GA not in FL, that is the difference.

Glad we got that figured out. :rofl1: I'm wracking my brain trying to figure out what was going on. :banghead:

Both the Little Lady and I have ours and practice weekly at the range. She can lay down a 10" pattern at 21 feet with her Glock 17, her prefered carry. :eek:
Don't mess with Grandma :rolleyes:

We both have a 26. Grandma must have a big purse. :D

lol i use to carry a full size 1911 and then went to a G21 but have now downsized to a G30. it is easier to hide on a 6ft 185lbs frame....

Was the 1911 carried in a shoulder holster?

She doesn't like the 26 because the grip is short for her. Go figure, she had me buy a Karr CW9 about a year ago because it was light and small. Guess what I inherited, I'd love to trade it towards a 26 for myself.

This lady was totally against guns until she was assualted in the ER where she works. Since then she has taken several personal defense courses that include weapons training with hand guns through AK47's and night tatics training geared towards the ladies.

That'll get your attention, but can she carry at the hospital?

What is this?

Nope, she can't carry on the property.

There a range in Sarasota, Take Aim, that holds classes geared for women, great confidence builder.

http://takeaimgunrange.com/firearm-s...kill-training/

We can carry in a regular hospital? Not in a mental facility. Right?

Reason I ask is I've heard this discussed before and it's my opinion we can carry in a hospital.

Here's the law Bob. IMO (I'm no lawyer) the official answer is yes, BUT..........working in the ER certainly has the staff in contact with mentally deminished people, a real grey area.

http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/ind...earch_String=& URL=Ch0394/SEC458.HTM&Title=->2003->Ch0394->Section%20458


The 2008 Florida Statutes

Title XXIX
PUBLIC HEALTH Chapter 394
MENTAL HEALTH View Entire Chapter

394.458 Introduction or removal of certain articles unlawful; penalty.--

(1)(a) Except as authorized by law or as specifically authorized by the person in charge of each hospital providing mental health services under this part, it is unlawful to introduce into or upon the grounds of such hospital, or to take or attempt to take or send therefrom, any of the following articles, which are hereby declared to be contraband for the purposes of this section:

1. Any intoxicating beverage or beverage which causes or may cause an intoxicating effect;

2. Any controlled substance as defined in chapter 893; or

3. Any firearms or deadly weapon.

(b) It is unlawful to transmit to, or attempt to transmit to, or cause or attempt to cause to be transmitted to, or received by, any patient of any hospital providing mental health services under this part any article or thing declared by this section to be contraband, at any place which is outside of the grounds of such hospital, except as authorized by law or as specifically authorized by the person in charge of such hospital.

(2) A person who violates any provision of this section commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

History.--s. 1, ch. 75-253; s. 201, ch. 77-147; s. 1, ch. 77-174; s. 6, ch. 96-169.

Referencing florida firearms law according to F.S.790.25 should be considered authorized by law to have your weapon securly encased in your vehicle.

now under FS 790.06(12) doesn't list hospitals but i wouldn't want to be a test case.

12) No license issued pursuant to this section shall authorize any person to carry a concealed weapon or firearm into any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05; any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station; any detention facility, prison, or jail; any courthouse; any courtroom, except that nothing in this section would preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his or her courtroom; any polling place; any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district; any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof; any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms; any school administration building; any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose; any elementary or secondary school facility; any career center; any college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty member of such college or university and the weapon is a stun gun or nonlethal electric weapon or device designed solely for defensive purposes and the weapon does not fire a dart or projectile; inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; or any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law. Any person who willfully violates any provision of this subsection commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

I guess i would just lock it up in my car in a secure locked case to be safe.

I really like to hear from some of the Forum LEO's about their opinion on the CCW.

Here's what I look at Rick. For comparison the hospital has a designated area for mental patients.

I do not like leaving a firearm in a vehicle and a hospital isn't any safer than any other place in my opinion.

That's true of the wards but the ER gets a mixed bag of Baker Acts, suicide attempts and many drunk and disorderly with LEO escorts. It's a tough one to call.

I think we're looking at two different aspects of HOSPITAL.
1) Care unit (I believe your correct and within the law)
2) ER, clearing house prior to being admitted or discharged (this is the one I hear most about)

Gotcha, thanks:thumbsup:

That's correct Rick. I think of them as a care unit.

You have a lot more experience than I do regarding the hospital and the laws pertaining to them. Like you said, "this is the one I hear most". We both agree that it's a gray area and I will continue to carry in them until such time as it's better defined in the law.

I hope I don't have to visit a hospital often and if I am caught it will be because I had to use it. In that case I'll take my chances with the jury. I would like to know if any LEO's are on this board and would they arrest someone caught carrying in a hospital.

negative.

i started with a Fobus (my first choice of holster BTW since we in GA can open cary with the permit) and then switched to a small of the back Blackhawk leather holster for right hand draw.

i then went to the G21 and got a blackhawk Serpa (it to me sticks out too much from the body and if you are use to the friction lock, the finger lock will catch you off guard)

i then got the G30 and again used a blackhawk until i could locate a Fobus as it fits my body better.

i was looking for a better way to go with a deeper concealment and was wanting a tuckable holster. i was introduced to the Kholster. he is a 1 man operation and makes a VERY nice QUALITY IWB holster. i wear it when it is HOT outside and all i wear is a t-shirt it is real easy to conceal. but now that is is colder i rock the Fobus.

i did use a shoulder holster back when i carried my SW40VE, and that is only good when it is cold out and you have no plans on taking off your coat.

I carry under HR218 and always will.

My humble opinion on a CCR. No problem, now put that CCR in the hands of an idiot and that worries me.

For the past, oh 30 years or so have carried concealed due to the Star or HR218 and in all that time I had one person ever notice I was carrying.:eek:

Something about having and not needing....................rather then needing and not having.

Unfortunately, because I'm in and out of so many places restrited by both HR218 and a CCW permit, I've gotten out of the habit of carrying.

I keep it "handy" when travelling.

Had for many yrs now. First in Ma. now Fl. I keep my snub nose lite weight 38 in my waist band. as i usually wear my shirt untucked. Think its been noticed 1 to 2x over yrs.
Keep the Beretta FS92 and FN Herstal 40 handy in truck or home. tactical shotgun on side bedrail. Son is grown and out of house. But put all guns in safe when family visits

Got my CCW 6 months ago , kept putting it off for lack of time, but someone hooked me up with a young man who came to the house, did the class , & then to the range, it was simple and less painless than I would have guessed.

Yes indeed I do
 

Got my non-resident CWP while I was still living in the land of no (NY). Had a house built here in '06 - housing market took a nose dive and tanked, and it took a while to sell in NY- but all the while I knew I could carry when I came to the great state of Florida for visits to the new home. Can remember the night our family went for a walking the dog together, and my son knew I was carrying. Our home is on a quiet street in a fairly upscale neighborhood and he asked why I was carrying. I didn't want him to feel unsecure so my answer was simply - because I can.We are now here full time and changed the CWP to a resident CWP. My wife is now a CWP holder also - so we got each other's backs. God Bless Florida - God Bless America.

Just took the CWP class this morning and went to the range for the first time in my life.
99% common sense, but then again if common sense was common, more people would have it.

My son, who is 31, took the class with me. Our goal is to get my wife (his Mom) to go to the range and shoot a 22. She was robbed at gun point at the age of 18 and has had a fear of guns ever since. She is warming up to the idea and has held both of our pistols recently. She will come around, but it has to be on her terms. That fine with me.... the world is to crazy to not be prepared today. Like a previous posted stated, better to have and not need, than to need and not have!!!!

Steve

I have to agree with you brother.
Then again, when I was doing this nonsense full time, there were officers that never fired until forced to go to the range.
One guy I had on the line, a warrants officer, had a weapon that would not fire.
My review of the weapon turned up a broken firing pin.

I asked him when the last time was he fired the weapon?
His response: Oh, I don't know?
Sometime last year when "they made us come out to the range!":eek:
Probably broke on the last round and been broken ever since!:nonod:

As you know, I even got "out of practice" for a while...and it showed:nonod::thumbsdown:

The CCW and 218 mirror each other for the most part, and carry the same restrictions.
The only difference is, 218 is nationwide, regardless of CCW reciprocity:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Exactly!
If you are good at it, they never will.

yep:thumbsup:

That's why mines always somewhere nearby. I just don't carry in my day to day, due the place I go.

218 or CCW, they're both restricted in many of the place I go:nonod:

Man, you can say that again!:thumbsup:

Steve,

May I also suggest that she (preferaby all of you) take a short course (a few hours max) in weapon retention, and disarmament.
Make sure your instructor has some background in the subject matter, and not just some "black belt" that saw this somewhere....I've seen some scary stuff being taught out here:rolleyes:

While a weapon is nice to have, there's always the potential for your opponent to remove your weapon and use it against you.
Many LEO's nationwide, are killed with thier own weapons.

It's a short, simple, and with the right instructor, very fun and enjoyable course.
I've had ladies come into my class saying "I could never do that!", and come out grinning like a cheshire cat with a whole new feeling of confidence in thier abilities with thier weapon.
:thumbsup::thumbsup:

BTW...welcome back:wavey::welcome::wavey:

Thanks for the Welcome Back :)

We all took self defense classes about 10 or 12 yrs ago, that's a great idea to do it again with a qualified instructor. We have more to learn than self defense, now we have our own weapon to retain.

Steve

That's the point:thumbsup:
Self defense and weapon retention/disarmament are two different animals.

I've practiced, fought and other wise been involved in various martial arts, since I was about 18.

I've seen and heard some of the most rediculous (and dangerous) comments, come from the mouths of "experts."
In some cases, the information they provided would get you hurt or killed.

It worked well in katas, and sparring, but on the street, you'd get your ass handed to you...or worse.

Unless the instructor has a specific background (more than his/her art form) in weapon retention/disarmament (they go hand and hand), and/or tactics, stay away from them.
Find someone that knows what they're doing to learn from.
Then practice, practice, practice, until you can do it in your sleep.

She'll be surprised how much confidence and comfort that will give her with the weapon:thumbsup:

If you find someone over there you're interested in going to, give me a shout. I'll be happy to check out the 'Creds.":thumbsup:

A popular thread for sure.....

I am a LEO since 1977 and have always carried, feeling it a duty to do so as a sworn officer.

When I retire in three months I will continue to carry as a free American citizen (HR218 and Florida CCP) as long as I am able to hit what I aim at.

It is imperative that all persons who carry are confident in their ability to safely handle, fire, and maintain their weapon. There is no excuse for not doing so.

One of the big problems in the community I work in, and I'm certain that it happens all around the country, is gun owners leaving their firearm in their unattended, and often unlocked vehicle, and having them stolen. These are usually gun owners who don't have a CCP and therefore don't take responsibility for their firearm ownership.

If you carry...get to the range and practice once in awhile. It sounds like everyone here does that.

Good thread
Good cars
Good people

I like this forum. :yesnod:

Excellent post!:thumbsup:

We started the same year:D

I know that all to well:(
Got out of practice for a short time. The resulting #'s were ugly to say the least!:nonod:

Agreed 100%
Needs to well above and beyond the almost worthless CCP offerings out there.

Unfortunately, we've had that same thing happen to countless LEO's nationwide.

Excellent advise!:thumbsup:

:welcome:aboard sir. Kick back and enjoy the ride:wavey::dancer01:

i know this is old but yes i have one

The last option in the pole reminds me of the lady at Wal-Mart about a week ago.
I was on my cell phone using my bluetooth headset taking to a friend about the 357 revolver that my son had gotten. A lady in the isle turned her cart around and said she was going the other way because she didn't want to near some gun nut. I looked at her and said you better leave.... You're in Wal-Mart and aren't most that shop here gun nuts. :shrug01: After all the largest army in the world is the American hunter.

I wanted to start following her around the store to mess with her, but I knew better. But it did make me laugh. :D

Steve

Does the Pope wear a funny hat?
 

I had a (worthless) carry permit in NY. As soon as I knew I was relocating to the great state of Florida and while we were having our house built here, I got a non-resident CWP figuring I could carry when here during my 4 or 5 visits during construction of the house. Glad I did because the housing market tanked and selling the house in NY was a drag and took longer than originally planned so we were "visiting" our new house for 3 years after it was completed and before we actually moved in full time. At least I had the CWP for when I was visiting. My first priority when living here permanently was to have it amended to "resident" -
My Glock Mod 19 is like the American Express card - I never leave home without it- the Glock, that is.

As soon as i can afford it i want another highly modef hk p-90, and another modded ar-308.

"It worked well in katas, and sparring, but on the street, you'd get your ass handed to you...or worse."

Shadow this statement brought back a great memory. On my first leave after graduating from Airborne Training (1967) our DI told a group of us " now that you think your the Baddest Ass on earth with all that training, be careful when you go into town those Rednecks will hurt you."

I did mine in 1997. 30 yrs later nothing has changed.