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xtrememotorsports 06-16-2008 05:16 PM

WHY THE CORVETTE FORUM SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!
 
I am a supporting member of the Corvette Forum,obviously not enough.I accumulate stock parts from customers cars and sell them to people who need them along with my personal parts pile I have from building race cars and other adventures.Most of the time I only respond to people who say I need this part,sometimes I will post a small Lot of parts to sell.This is the P.M.
I got today.This tells me they only care about the money generated by advertisement and not the corvette communities wants and needs.

:thumbsdown:


Greetings,
I noticed you have have had many threads where you are selling parts off of corvettes.
If these parts are not off your car, rather off your customers cars, you are in violation of the forum rules.

"Supporting vendors pay for the considerable bandwidth charges on the Forum, making it free for the rest of us. In exchange, they get the privilege of using the Forum to market and promote their goods and services. Historically, we allow them to post in the generation sections and the regional sections to market and promote their products/services.

Forum members are welcome to sell a Corvette or Corvette parts they purchased for their own personal use. Anything else is considered to be a commercial sale.

No links or reference to eBay sales or any other auction or sales sites, please. If the sale is appropriate for the Forum, post it on the Forum, rather than linking to it elsewhere.

Members are not prohibited from mentioning it when they have a good (or bad, for that matter) experience with a non-supporting vendor. But such mentions cannot be so specific (address, phone number, e-mail address, URL, price, part number, etc.) and so frequent that they become marketing and promotional references.

Only supporting vendors can post Group Purchase threads.

Members can include a mention of their personal businesses in their signatures so long as the enterprise does not compete with an existing supporting vendor, is not Corvette-related and is not so detailed or so frequently appended to their posts that it becomes inappropriate marketing and promotion."

If your posting only items that belong to you, let me know and I will re-open your thread.

Jeff
Mvcrash on the Cf
Moderator

Shadow 06-16-2008 05:22 PM

Well, FWIW Chris, we're happy you're here:thumbsup:

xtrememotorsports 06-16-2008 05:33 PM

Thanks
 
Thanks man,
This is why I decided to sponsor this site and I always promote this site,Its not all about the money.It is more about the people and I have yet to hear anything negative on this site.


:thumbsup:

Rich Z 06-16-2008 05:58 PM

For a lot of reasons, I believe this thread would be more appropriately placed in the Board Of Inquiry forum here. Therefore I am moving it there.

That being said, quite a few people were surprised that I chose not to run this site the same way as quite a few other Corvette related sites are run. This site is MEMBER driven, not SPONSOR driven. And as a member myself, quite frankly I really appreciate seeing anyone and everyone making offers to me (along with everyone else) for items and services to sell. I personally am not comfortable holding sellers, that I believe most members would like to hear from anyway, as hostages preventing them from reaching an appreciative audience, by requiring that they pay me for that privilege.

That is not saying that CF and others are right or wrong at all. It's just that I have a different perspective and attitude about such things. Paid sponsors are certainly appreciated and welcomed, but they will not be booted in the butt because they don't line my pockets.

Just treat the members here right, please. That is what is important to me.

fletcher4u 06-16-2008 07:41 PM

:iagree: THAY SUCK

Yellow 06-16-2008 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtrememotorsports (Post 62237)
I am a supporting member of the Corvette Forum,obviously not enough.I accumulate stock parts from customers cars and sell them to people who need them along with my personal parts pile I have from building race cars and other adventures.Most of the time I only respond to people who say I need this part,sometimes I will post a small Lot of parts to sell.

There is a difference between a "supporting member" and "supporting vendor".
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/member.php?u=240082

It is obvious you are skirting the "supporting vendor" rule, by selling parts from your business (I understand they are take offs). Also your user name is your business name and you have your business name in your signature. To me this means you are using the forum to advertise your business.

xtrememotorsports 06-16-2008 11:12 PM

BANNED!!!!!!!!
 
Well I will now only be making post on this site seeing how I was BANNED from the corvette forum.

:dancer01:

Shadow 06-16-2008 11:21 PM

:hide:
Hey Rich! We need a POPCORN smiley:toetap05:

LS2POWA 06-16-2008 11:53 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...er98/lurk5.gif

Rich Z 06-17-2008 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtrememotorsports (Post 62261)
Well I will now only be making post on this site seeing how I was BANNED from the corvette forum.

:dancer01:

Banned? Why? Did you say anything to them after you got that reprimand?
:confused:

Shadow 06-17-2008 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LS2POWA (Post 62270)

:thumbsup::thumbsup::rofl1:

That'd be the one:thumbsup::thumbsup:

xtrememotorsports 06-17-2008 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Z (Post 62276)
Banned? Why? Did you say anything to them after you got that reprimand?
:confused:


Nope, all of a sudden I was banned.

xtrememotorsports 06-17-2008 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow (Post 62257)
There is a difference between a "supporting member" and "supporting vendor".
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/member.php?u=240082

It is obvious you are skirting the "supporting vendor" rule, by selling parts from your business (I understand they are take offs). Also your user name is your business name and you have your business name in your signature. To me this means you are using the forum to advertise your business.

My name on this forum has been the same ever since I signed up awhile ago, so I dont know why all of a sudden it would make a difference.

Yellow 06-17-2008 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtrememotorsports (Post 62261)
Well I will now only be making post on this site seeing how I was BANNED from the corvette forum.

:dancer01:

Banned?

Did you contact the moderator who PMed you and ask why?

Yellow 06-17-2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtrememotorsports (Post 62291)
My name on this forum has been the same ever since I signed up awhile ago, so I dont know why all of a sudden it would make a difference.

I would think it was the recent for sale thread with the parts from your business, but I can not say for sure.

Again contact the moderator if you care to know why.

xtrememotorsports 06-17-2008 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow (Post 62308)
I would think it was the recent for sale thread with the parts from your business, but I can not say for sure.

Again contact the moderator if you care to know why.

Nope dont care at all, I have had the same name for 2 years on that site and this is not the first time I have sold anything on that site, plain and simple just as about 90% of people I know say (some who are even still a part of the site ) most I am told stay there because its pure comedy and a guessing game on "who gets the boot next"...

ALL ABOUT THE $$$$ NOT ABOUT THE PEOPLE !!!!!

I am just glad I found this site, a real site dedicated to helping people who all have the same interest in mine.....CORVETTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shadow 06-17-2008 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow (Post 62308)
...Again contact the moderator if you care to know why.

Not starting anything, but how is he going to contact the moderator on that site? He was "BANNED".

Pretty much negates a pm doesn't it?

Yellow 06-17-2008 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtrememotorsports (Post 62312)
Nope dont care at all, I have had the same name for 2 years on that site and this is not the first time I have sold anything on that site, plain and simple just as about 90% of people I know say (some who are even still a part of the site ) most I am told stay there because its pure comedy and a guessing game on "who gets the boot next"...

ALL ABOUT THE $$$$ NOT ABOUT THE PEOPLE !!!!!

I am just glad I found this site, a real site dedicated to helping people who all have the same interest in mine.....CORVETTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You were on today after you posted this thread, so are you banned or not?

Yellow 06-17-2008 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 62325)
Not starting anything, but how is he going to contact the moderator on that site? He was "BANNED".

Pretty much negates a pm doesn't it?


e-mail ?? I do not know...I assumed you could still pm...

MRS. XTREME 06-17-2008 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow (Post 62331)

You were on today after you posted this thread, so are you banned or not?


I havent been able to log in to the corvett forum since last night, so I dont know when you saw me on there if I try to log in this is what it says

You have been banned for the following reason:
Commercial posting/non-supporting vendor

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

MRS. XTREME 06-17-2008 01:16 PM

I posted that last comment for Chris but didnt know I was under my name, just so no one gets confused

Yellow 06-17-2008 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRS. XTREME (Post 62340)
I havent been able to log in to the corvett forum since last night, so I dont know when you saw me on there if I try to log in this is what it says

You have been banned for the following reason:
Commercial posting/non-supporting vendor

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

but he can..he is on now
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/member.php?u=240082

Shadow 06-17-2008 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow (Post 62332)

e-mail ?? I do not know...I assumed you could still pm...

I guess if he had the moderators e-mail address he could e-mail therm separate from the forum. Banning will negate the use of a PM;)

Yellow 06-17-2008 01:19 PM

If you can not log in I do not thin you can see the link.
xtrememotorsports
CF Member

Last Activity: Today 01:13 PM
Viewing Index Corvette Forum @ 01:13 PM

MRS. XTREME 06-17-2008 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow (Post 62343)

I dont know whats going on then, when I click on that link it says banned!!
Maybe he is using the computer at the shop and they only banned the IP address at home and not the actual screen name... I dont know.

Shadow 06-17-2008 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow (Post 62343)


That link is worthless to some of us. Want to cut and paste the pertinent information please so we can see for ourselves?

Chris, can you log into the other place? If so, then you're no longer banned.

If that's the case, it would seem someone undid the ban?

Please let the unwashed among us know the facts.

Thanks:thumbsup:

Yellow 06-17-2008 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 62348)
That link is worthless to some of us. Want to cut and paste the pertinent information please so we can see for ourselves?

Chris, can you log into the other place? If so, then you're no longer banned.

If that's the case, it would seem someone undid the ban?

Please let the unwashed among us know the facts.

Thanks:thumbsup:


here

If you can not log in I do not thin you can see the link.
xtrememotorsports
CF Member

Last Activity: Today 01:13 PM
Viewing Index Corvette Forum @ 01:20 PM

Shadow 06-17-2008 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow (Post 62345)
If you can not log in I do not thin you can see the link.
xtrememotorsports
CF Member

Last Activity: Today 01:13 PM
Viewing Index Corvette Forum @ 01:13 PM

Thats it, thanks:thumbsup:

Yellow 06-17-2008 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRS. XTREME (Post 62346)
I dont know whats going on then, when I click on that link it says banned!!
Maybe he is using the computer at the shop and they only banned the IP address at home and not the actual screen name... I dont know.

I do not know, could be....

Shadow 06-17-2008 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRS. XTREME (Post 62346)
I dont know whats going on then, when I click on that link it says banned!!
Maybe he is using the computer at the shop and they only banned the IP address at home and not the actual screen name... I dont know.

Thats more than likely what happened. If they simply banned the IP address, he should be able to get in using another computer. If they banned the name, he wouldn't (shouldn't) be able to get back in at all.

MRS. XTREME 06-17-2008 01:27 PM

Weird !!
From home on this computer I am now tyoing on I can NOT go to the corvette forum without it saying

YOU ARE BANNED

So if his last activity was today, then he has to be able to log in from the shop under the same name meaning he still has access , but why not here at home??

Hmmmmm.......

MRS. XTREME 06-17-2008 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 62353)
Thats more than likely what happened. If they simply banned the IP address, he should be able to get in using another computer. If they banned the name, he wouldn't (shouldn't) be able to get back in at all.



I think so too.

Shadow 06-17-2008 01:30 PM

...another mystery solved...now...back to that little universe thing.....

Yellow 06-17-2008 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 62357)
...another mystery solved...now...back to that little universe thing.....

:rolleyes:

Rich Z 06-17-2008 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow (Post 62345)
If you can not log in I do not thin you can see the link.
xtrememotorsports
CF Member

Last Activity: Today 01:13 PM
Viewing Index Corvette Forum @ 01:13 PM

I think there is some confusion here.

When a member is banned from a vBulletin based message board, the system still registers their visit as them viewing the main index page of the forum. That is what you see when you check someone's member profile. That does not mean they can actually view or access anything on the forum, it just means that the system recognized their member name and is blocking their access.

Banning an IP address is a separate function from the admin page and is not implicit when a member is banned. The ban actually works off of the cookie that is stored on your local system that tells the vBulletin software who you are. So in effect, when you try to log into the system, you gain access to the main index page, the software reads the cookie that your local PC issues to it, and the vBulletin software then determines that you are banned. At that point, you get the message saying you have been banned, and don't actually view the main index page at all.

On my sites where I have had to ban people, the only time I use the IP ban is if they figure out how to bypass the cookie based ban and register anew with a false registration merely to kick up a fuss about it. But to be honest, with so many ISPs using dynamically allocated IPs, that is really only of limited value anyway. I suspect that CF has an admin who manually audits new registrations and blocks them. But even this is of limited value if the registrant isn't stupid about the registration info.

Hope that explains things a little better, so people don't start jumping to conclusions about things.

Yellow 06-17-2008 02:57 PM

Rich Thanks for Clearing that up :thumbsup:

MRS. XTREME 06-17-2008 02:58 PM

YES THANK YOU!!!
 
I thought I was the crazy one there for a second!!

Shadow 06-17-2008 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow
...another mystery solved...now...back to that little universe thing.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow (Post 62361)
:rolleyes:

Sorry, I forgot...that's been worked out already:lmao::lmao:

How about the chicken v. the egg? That one still up for grabs?

SportsCarsUnlimited 06-17-2008 11:58 PM

Hello
They did the same thing to me. My Signature was the same as my Business name so I would half to pay to be a Supporting Vendor if I was to sell parts.
Smokinvettes.com did the same thing, I was just trying to help people out with the Corvette parts I dont need at a good price, Not trying to get rich.
David Steele

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtrememotorsports (Post 62237)
I am a supporting member of the Corvette Forum,obviously not enough.I accumulate stock parts from customers cars and sell them to people who need them along with my personal parts pile I have from building race cars and other adventures.Most of the time I only respond to people who say I need this part,sometimes I will post a small Lot of parts to sell.This is the P.M.
I got today.This tells me they only care about the money generated by advertisement and not the corvette communities wants and needs.

:thumbsdown:


Greetings,
I noticed you have have had many threads where you are selling parts off of corvettes.
If these parts are not off your car, rather off your customers cars, you are in violation of the forum rules.

"Supporting vendors pay for the considerable bandwidth charges on the Forum, making it free for the rest of us. In exchange, they get the privilege of using the Forum to market and promote their goods and services. Historically, we allow them to post in the generation sections and the regional sections to market and promote their products/services.

Forum members are welcome to sell a Corvette or Corvette parts they purchased for their own personal use. Anything else is considered to be a commercial sale.

No links or reference to eBay sales or any other auction or sales sites, please. If the sale is appropriate for the Forum, post it on the Forum, rather than linking to it elsewhere.

Members are not prohibited from mentioning it when they have a good (or bad, for that matter) experience with a non-supporting vendor. But such mentions cannot be so specific (address, phone number, e-mail address, URL, price, part number, etc.) and so frequent that they become marketing and promotional references.

Only supporting vendors can post Group Purchase threads.

Members can include a mention of their personal businesses in their signatures so long as the enterprise does not compete with an existing supporting vendor, is not Corvette-related and is not so detailed or so frequently appended to their posts that it becomes inappropriate marketing and promotion."

If your posting only items that belong to you, let me know and I will re-open your thread.

Jeff
Mvcrash on the Cf
Moderator


Rich Z 06-18-2008 01:16 AM

Now you guys have me curious. What does it cost to become a Supporting Vendor over on CF?


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