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03-08-2008, 11:23 PM
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Team Afterhours Member
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Name : Corey Metz
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LS2 Limits.
So my next endeavor is to boost the vette. I had planned on swapping out different heads(Livernois has a nice setup, for a good price) to help compensate the boost. Stage 2 heads specs...
New GM 243 casting
5 axis CNC machined
Fully assembled
220cc Intake Runner
Intake Flow Rate 305 CFM
Exhaust Flow Rate 235 CFM
New 2.000 intake valves / 1.550 exhaust valves
GM valve seals and locks
Livernois dual coil valve springs good to ~ .690 lift
Manley titanium retainers
No core required
----For 1449.00, and 300 core refund.
I was also told to use forged pistons and rods, understandable.
Tonight at a meet, Tim had mentioned since the heads will be coming off to throw in a blower cam. So it had me thinking of also adding a cam now, cause i love the sound of a lopy V8, specially with a s/c whine.
With adding forged pistons/rods, and putting in a torque converter(25 or 26 hundred), could the motor/tranny handle that additional power without going kaboom? As of now im putting out 362whp/367tq on CAI, Fast90, 90mm t/b, Dynatech 1 7/8" LT's, Magnaflow 3" catback.
Ive been told by a few people that the motor is only good for 550hp, and tranny for the same. Yet ive seen a few threads with guys making 600+ and not mentioning fully builtup motor and nothing wrong with motor after x amount of miles.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thought id ask here before posting on the other vette forum and have my head ripped off for asking a serious question.
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03-09-2008, 12:11 AM
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well if your going that far with a motor I would build a tranny and add a gear and add a heavy duty rear
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03-09-2008, 12:26 AM
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From what i hear from the non-bs people, is that the 6L80E is a bullet proof tranny, just the tc would need to be upgraded to handle the power. but i like to hear from other people who had work done, or do the work "wink wink" vendors lol.
stock rear is the 8.8 correct?, if so thatll hold. i shouldnt be making more then 650hp and 580-600 tq.
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03-09-2008, 12:31 AM
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It probably depends on how you plan on driving the car. If you plan on taking it to the drag strip and running a bunch of quarter mile runs with sticky drag radials on the rear, yeah, you will probably break things by boosting the motor and not beefing up the rest of the drivetrain.
But if you are just DRIVING the car with occasional punches to the accelerator while in motion, instead of from a dead stop, the shock to the drivetrain should be minimal and you should be OK. Even dead stop launches will be pretty much OK if you are using street tires and try to avoid wheel hop. With wheel hop, your drivetrain experiences a rapid series of transitions from no load to full load and can easily cause some impressive damage.
The thing that breaks drivetrain components is a transition from no load to full load ABRUPTLY and SUDDENLY. Your rear tires are normally the safety fuse and the smoke they make is them saving something else from going *pop*. So if you drive in such a manner as to keep wheel spin to a minimum, you are also driving in such a way that will keep those transitional forces from tearing things up.
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03-09-2008, 12:40 AM
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The car is my daily driver. It gets the occasional punchs on I275 going to tampa for school, but other then that nothing heavy. i havent even taken it to the track nor do i plan to in the future(dont wanna install a massive roll cage to find out how fast i run a 1/4, not worth it). I rarely punch it off the line, i roll into first when i know theres enough spin then ill punch it. and i have some kdw2's waitin to go on, so no crappy traction uses like the stock runcraps.
This is all ive found.
Type: Six-speed RWD / AWD, electronically controlled automatic overdrive transmission with torque converter clutch. Clutch-to-clutch architecture, with integral Electro / Hydraulic Controls Module
Maximum engine power: 413 bhp (308 kW)
Maximum engine torque: 430 lb-ft (583 Nm)
Maximum gearbox torque: 664 lb-ft (900 Nm)
Important number pertaining to my question is the gearbox number correct? Cause i came across some other sites with the hummer h2 producing 415 engine torque. and if headers/exhaust were done it would surpass the engine torque limits.
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03-09-2008, 01:37 AM
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are the pistons in that engine cast or forged and whats the compression ratio?
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03-09-2008, 09:31 AM
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As mentioned, if it's a regular drag car, then you'll need to upgrade the rear and the trans significantly.
If it see's the occasional track day and regular street driving , then you should be ok
You can hit the track once without a roll bar and get you're #'s.
They'll warn you if you're under a certain time, or tell you to lave until you've installed the bar/cage.
What kind of SC are you using?
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