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Originally Posted by C5Rick
Gordon
Not to be indifferent to the local officers, but the death of 4 officers in Oakland, trying to apprehend one suspect, was unbelievable
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Rick, that's not indifferent brother and if you're concerned, there's no disrespect taken.
Traffic stops are one of the more deadly yet routine duties and encounters a street officer will have during his/her day.
It's a totally unknown situation with "facts" that are yet to be determined.
As in the case of the first two (2) Oakland officers, a simple traffic stop yeilded a violent felony offender sworn not to return to jail.
I've been there and by the grace of God (or whom ever one believes in), was able to survive the encounter. But you don't know when it's going to happen and when it does, it happens quick!!!
As a retired motorcycle officcer, many times as in this case, we rode in pairs. Doing so you tend to adopt a false sense of security. That coupled with the hundreds of stops you make in a single week, the odds start to stack up against you.
The SWAT team deaths don't make sense to me? I know it happens and a good friend of mine was killed in Coco Beach while on a SWAT call out, just a short time after he and I trained on tactical entries at an IALEFI (International Assn. of L.E. Firearms Instructors) convention
Stuff happens and things go wrong. I'd really like to know what happened there?
The deputies in our county, as with Trooper Crooks,
http://www.flhsmv.gov/fhp/Memorial/Crooks.htm
killed by that child killing, cop hating POS Hank Earl Carr (was I unclear?-Anyone know where he's buried? I think I need to relieve myself!
) knew what they were getting into. They knew there was a problem, but since mind reading isn't taught in the police academy, there's no way to have known that he would react so violently to being, in effect, out numbered and out gunned.
We're caught in the middle.
If we over react, we're bad, mean, overzealous thugs
If we fail to react porperly, we get medical leave and maybe, our familes get a properly folded flag and the kids get college
Anyway brother, I know what you mean about the Oakland officers. As a retired Deputy and former motor officer, my heart goes out to thier families and loved ones.
As is inscribed upon our memorial, and as a tribute to the SWAT officers that died in the melee,
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"a greater love hath no man than that he lay down his life for his fellow man..."
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R.I.P. gentlemenl