Your Impression of LEO

[vett boy]

Originally Posted by 85vette

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but don't label us all the same. Like any other profession, there will be the bad apples. Make a complaint at the officer's agency (after you beat the charge in court). This will help them identify those that need to be "counseled" and perhaps receive remedial training.

I sent a letter As you've recommended and received a form reply .Maine use to have troopers right out of the pages of Mayberry RFD .Polite ,down to earth,common sense and if you got a ticket you smiled and knew you deserved it .No I don't judge all alike and as a matter of fact I met a DOT officer in North Carolina .I was on my way to Junkies house and the officer and I had a long discussion .When I was all squared away he shock my hand said it was a pleasure and I was on my way.(no ticket)

[Shadow]

Originally Posted by vett boy

I sent a letter As you've recommended and received a form reply .Maine use to have troopers right out of the pages of Mayberry RFD .Polite ,down to earth,common sense and if you got a ticket you smiled and knew you deserved it .No I don't judge all alike and as a matter of fact I met a DOT officer in North Carolina .I was on my way to Junkies house and the officer and I had a long discussion .When I was all squared away he shock my hand said it was a pleasure and I was on my way.(no ticket)

I hate form letters!

Hey Chief/Sheriff, here's a novel thought!

How about we take a moment, to have some secretary at least look busy and type out a dictated letter!
Then you can get off your pompous ass and sign the mother****** and send it to the citizen.
At least make them feel like you G.A.S.!

Or hell, have the division (IAD) director do it, who cares? As long as someone does it.
I usually toss form letters and start making phone calls.

Anyway, I'm happy you at least had a positive experience with DOT. Sometimes those guys can be more of a PITA than a regular street cop.

When it comes to tickets, when I was a motor officer, I would generally write tickets in a 3 to 1 ratio.
3 warnings to every 1 ticket.

It kept the "stats' up for the brass.
Showed I was actually doing something, and gave me the opportunity to examine a driver, vehicle, etc. a little closer for less reason

I wouldn't write a ticket for 8 over, but if I wanted to check something out, it was as good a reason as any and the written warning documented the stop

[85vette]

Originally Posted by Shadow

I hate form letters!


When it comes to tickets, when I was a motor officer, I would generally write tickets in a 3 to 1 ratio.
3 warnings to every 1 ticket.

It kept the "stats' up for the brass.
Showed I was actually doing something, and gave me the opportunity to examine a driver, vehicle, etc. a little closer for less reason

I wouldn't write a ticket for 8 over, but if I wanted to check something out, it was as good a reason as any and the written warning documented the stop

^ What he said!

[Z06 Rocket]

I heard rumor that the COP was short for COPPER, the material the badges were made of in the early years waaaaaaay back when.

[Bob K]

Originally Posted by Shadow

I wouldn't write a ticket for 8 over, but if I wanted to check something out, it was as good a reason as any and the written warning documented the stop

Have you ever heard 8 is fine but 9 you're mine?

[Shadow]

Originally Posted by Bob K

Have you ever heard 8 is fine but 9 you're mine?

That's what she said, but I refused to have a reduction

[vettejack]

Originally Posted by Kap142

Just a couple of short points if I may.

1) Having spent my entire career in Law Enforcement for a good sized agency and having interaction with many agencies all across the country I have NEVER met a corrupt LEO. Have officers,deputies/troopers made mistakes that cost them their jobs or careers? Yes they have.

2) Professional curtesy to other officers is not a given. I remember giving a ticket to an NYPD because an attitude about being exempt or above the law. It was his attitude that got him the ticket (just as with anyone I ever stopped). I was never a "big on traffic unit" but if faced with an obvious infraction I would work them as necessary and with all the curtesy I was allowed by the driver.

3) Have I ever shown professional curtesy to another officer, yes. We walked in the same dangerous shoes and pursued through the same dangerous streets and gone through the same dangerous doors after people who would take our life with no concern for us or our families.

4) What you say about attitude of officers is a bit misguided. Most (not all) are truly super people. Take them out of uniform and get to know them and you'll probably like what you find. Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. Were their LEO's I didn't care for, yes. Were their ego's, yes. Just don't use too broad of a brush.

Just my observations.

I'm was wondering when SHADOW was going to pipe in.....

[Shadow]

Originally Posted by nasajack

I'm was wondering when SHADOW was going to pipe in.....

Figured this time I'd just sit back for a while and watch the train wreck

[vettejack]

Originally Posted by Kap142

Just a couple of short points if I may.

1) Having spent my entire career in Law Enforcement for a good sized agency and having interaction with many agencies all across the country I have NEVER met a corrupt LEO. Have officers,deputies/troopers made mistakes that cost them their jobs or careers? Yes they have.

2) Professional curtesy to other officers is not a given. I remember giving a ticket to an NYPD because an attitude about being exempt or above the law. It was his attitude that got him the ticket (just as with anyone I ever stopped). I was never a "big on traffic unit" but if faced with an obvious infraction I would work them as necessary and with all the curtesy I was allowed by the driver.

3) Have I ever shown professional curtesy to another officer, yes. We walked in the same dangerous shoes and pursued through the same dangerous streets and gone through the same dangerous doors after people who would take our life with no concern for us or our families.

4) What you say about attitude of officers is a bit misguided. Most (not all) are truly super people. Take them out of uniform and get to know them and you'll probably like what you find. Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. Were their LEO's I didn't care for, yes. Were their ego's, yes. Just don't use too broad of a brush.

Just my observations.

Ken, Shadow (et al of the LEO world) my friends'...we're not worthy!!

[vettejack]

tune into this video...kinda rough, but you'll get the jest of it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgzZKHdV-P4