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Unread 07-11-2010, 04:00 PM   #1
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Here's the link. The assailant is where he's supposed to be.

http://billingsgazette.com/news/stat...cc4c002e0.html
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Unread 07-11-2010, 04:06 PM   #2
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Great thing ,dash cams .
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Unread 07-11-2010, 05:56 PM   #3
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I read somewhere that Traffic Stops are one on the most dangerous task an Office has.
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I read somewhere that Traffic Stops are one on the most dangerous task an Office has.
I think it's domestic violence. Need the experts to chime in.
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That gives you a good example of how fast things can go bad on a "Routine" traffic stop. He was lucky he didn't get hit. In that fleeting instant when the suspect pointed the gun out the window, the LEO didn't know whether to s*** or go blind. Fortunatley he recovered enough to resort to his training and did what he needed to do.
I use the word Routine in jest....there is no such thing. Routine in this business is just a synonym for complacent.

Domestic situations are considered the highest risk, traffic stops are second, although this officer may argue that point.
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Glad he made it through that...glad that the driver is where they belong now...

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Here's the whole story.

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That gives you a good example of how fast things can go bad on a "Routine" traffic stop. He was lucky he didn't get hit. In that fleeting instant when the suspect pointed the gun out the window, the LEO didn't know whether to s*** or go blind. Fortunatley he recovered enough to resort to his training and did what he needed to do.
I use the word Routine in jest....there is no such thing. Routine in this business is just a synonym for complacent.

Domestic situations are considered the highest risk, traffic stops are second, although this officer may argue that point.
but to add to this, although domestics are considered the highest risk, compared to other calls/activities, your probablility of attack on a traffic stop is compounded by the numbers.

Most uniformed officers will make more traffic stops in a day/week/month/year, etc, than they will handle domestics.

The "opportunity" for an adverse action is greatly increased as a result.
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I heard the "click" in the video

He's one lucky SOB!

This is precisely why you DO NOT STAND directly in line with the driver on a traffic stop
Complacency in a MOFO and will get you nearly every time. Thankfully, this wasn't "one of those times."

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It took the six-woman jury one hour to make its ruling following nearly five hours of testimony, which included a videotape that showed Davis pointing a pistol inches from Jessop’s face and pulling the trigger.

The click of the revolver’s hammer hitting a previously fired round was audible on the tape.
After seeing that video, and hearing that "click", should have taken those people 1 minute to reach a decision

I realize that a lot of delay is posturing for political purposes; however, in a case a clear cut as this, there should be ZERO concern over the response from the community!

Justified, next item on the agenda.....
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I heard the "click" in the video

He's one lucky SOB!

This is precisely why you DO NOT STAND directly in line with the driver on a traffic stop
Complacency in a MOFO and will get you nearly every time. Thankfully, this wasn't "one of those times."

This is bullchit


After seeing that video, and hearing that "click", should have taken those people 1 minute to reach a decision

I realize that a lot of delay is posturing for political purposes; however, in a case a clear cut as this, there should be ZERO concern over the response from the community!

Justified, next item on the agenda.....
I agree but I'm thinking he shot while the guy was fleeing. In other words his shots were maybe considered offensive and not defensive although his responsibility was to protect the community and get this guy off the streets. I'm just trying to learn something here. I'm pretty sure if I shot someone fleeing my house I would be prosecuted.
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