Laser jammers

[Hot Pursuit]

Originally Posted by Prestige593

MYTH #1 : Driving 25 miles over the posted speed limit IS NOT reckless driving according to Florida State Statute.

316.192 - 1)(a) Any person who drives any vehicle in willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property is guilty of reckless driving.

No where does it state that excessive speed is reckless. If you received a citaion for reckless driving, and you were "ONLY" travelling 25 (+) M.P.H. over the posted speed than that citaion would be invalid. (example) If the excessive speed, accompanied with cutting around other vehicles, on wet roads, where pedestrians were present that is another story.

Speeding is one of the most prevalent factors contributing to traffic crashes. The economic cost to society of speeding-related crashes is estimated by NHTSA to be $40.4 BILLION per year. In 2005, speeding was a contributing factor in 30 percent of all fatal crashes, and 13,113 lives were lost in speeding-related crashes.
-NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration

I have been a Police Officer for 12 yrs in a large city, I am not pulling this information out of my @ss. I do know that laser jammers are a waste of money and do NOT work. Remember in the late 80's early 90's the "Radar absorbing bra"? How short lived was that! And yes, HeelnToe you have to pay to play (and that goes for me too, yes there are cops who write other cops tickets out there). For the rest of you, If you get caught speeding then take your licks. My advice to you is not to argue w/ the officer (or worse Trooper), just accept the citaion and drive off. Trust me, you wont win the argument and may just piss him/her off to write more citations. Your best bet (at least in Broward county) is to hire a ticket attorney, or go to court yourself.

I couldn't have said it better myself Prestige. I think you hit all the valid points regarding speed vs reckless driving. SPEED IN AND OF ITSELF IS NOT RECKLESS DRIVING.

As an Officer of 10 years I can say that I have given reckless driving tickets for things such as donuts being spun in an intersection based on traffic and peds in the area, and have written 100-plus mph speeding tickets with not so much as a "please slow down" and off the driver went with no reckless driving charge. The only catch now is that the law is such that 30-plus over the limit is an automatic court date. The court date is STILL AN INFRACTION, which means NO CRIME (ie reckless driving is a CRIME). The court date is only to prevent the violator from simply paying or taking the online drivers course without the inconvenience of having to look remorseful in front of a judge. The law makers wanted the high speed violations to be troubled to loose time and physically appear in court. The fines and or punishments are the same. The judge can ding the driver a higher fine or even suspend the license a few weeks if the behavior keeps repeating itself.

I know I don't ticket until the driver hits 20 mph over the limit on major roads, and 15 in slower residential areas with pedestrians about. Some officers start at 15 over on major roads though, so keep it within 10 of the limit and 95% of the officers won't bother you.

If you do get stopped please don't insult the officer and say "Well gee officer, I really don't know why your stopping me" because then they feel that you might have to be reminded in a more permanent way if you were really that unaware of what you were doing. I have let many people off for simply appearing remorseful and willing to take the lumps. If I think that they truly are sorry then I feel the ticket is not necessary.

Believe it or not I am no hypocrite, and have actually managed to get both cars stopped when I see some silly behavior (ie red light to red light at 3am) and given a lecture and stopped at that. If the car runs then the one that stopped is home free and the runner is "game on" go straight to jail-do not pass go-do not collect $200.00!

[HeelnToe]

That is some good and encouraging info from Prestige and Hot Pursuit. I'm glad there is mostly reasonableness in the LEO community. You guys have an incredible amount of responsibility and risk involved in your day to day. I applaud your getting involved in these forums.

Including commutes, I've taken at least 50,000 trips in my lifetime (including two 10k mile cross-country trips). Virtually always 10-14MPH over on highways, 5-9 MPH over on local roads and have about a dozen tickets lifetime, so it is actually a very low percentage. I read in the Florida drivers manual where either 4-5 MPH over the limit isn't even a ticket, only a warning? It is mostly on local roads where signs aren't always well posted where you can do 50-55 in a 25 or 30 zone (thinking it is a 45 zone) and get caught out. Now with 70MPH limits on FL highways, 80-85 is fast enough.

I guess we'll all just keep on keepin' on.

[Prestige593]

The way that I handle business is this: (Disclaimer - I cannot speak for any other police officer, only myself). I am radar and laser certified. When I am running radar or laser I give a grace of 20 M.P.H. That means that on a 50 M.P.H. roadway, the vehicle has to be at 70 or above. I think that that is fair.

To get back on track, I am telling you, as a fellow corvette owner (C3), please save your $$ and DO NOT buy any type of laser jammer or radar detector. Everything good that you hear about these products is propaganda and advertisements from companies that make them.

[03blackZ06]

don't know if this matters or not but i have a jammer and everytime there is one of those sings on streets that tell you how fast you are going it jams it all up into a bunch of squiggliy lines, and also on the suncoast parkway with the radar and speed sign at the toll of waters (i think) it always jams that up quite nice. I would have to assume it works but don't put all of your trust into them. hope this helps. thanks mike

[Rich Z]

Does anyone know WHY radar jammers are illegal?

[03blackZ06]

Originally Posted by Rich Z

Does anyone know WHY radar jammers are illegal?

because they jam the cops radars. isn't that illegal enough? That they can't tell how fast you are going when you are speeding.

[Rich Z]

Originally Posted by 03blackZ06

because they jam the cops radars. isn't that illegal enough? That they can't tell how fast you are going when you are speeding.

So why would that be against the law? Why should I be obligated to provide the evidence to be used against me as a revenue generating exercise?

Just playing the devil's advocate role here.....

[clipjoint]

laser jammers are not illegal as they are regulated by the us. food and drug administration. There is no law that makes them illegal but you have to smart while using one. I currently use a park pro and my unit works absolutely flawless. I have been hit hundereds of times in the orlando area and I have never gotten nailed for speeding. When you use one it will alert you that your being shot with the laser beam. After adjusting your speed to the legal speed limit I turn my unit off the cop gets my speed and I keep riding. As far as a radar jammer, I have one of those as well and it only jams k band and it is not to reliable. I know it works cause when I go by one of those silly signs on the side of the road that tell me what my speed is, it displays nothing whatsoever. I bought my unit from a company years back for 700.00 and the company was called tigerlilly and it was named a phantom. Not rocky mountains junk. Passive radar jammers are a scam. They say they will pay your speeding ticket if you are using it when your stopped, but if you read the fine print thats given to you when you buy there crap it states they will only pay your ticket if it shows you were doing under 10 mph of the posted speed limit. A real joke cause most cops will give you up to 10 over anyways. Just a word from expensive and lived experience.


O yeah one other note: Just because this is my first post here does not mean I am spreading propoganda for anyone else or trying to sell anything. I could care less if you buy one or not. I am simply stating fact. And yes I do own a vette, its a 98 c-5. I usually drive my 87 grand national because it simply has more power and more grunt than my vette.

[Shadow]

Originally Posted by clipjoint

...O yeah one other note: Just because this is my first post here does not mean I am spreading propoganda for anyone else or trying to sell anything. I could care less if you buy one or not. I am simply stating fact. And yes I do own a vette, its a 98 c-5. I usually drive my 87 grand national because it simply has more power and more grunt than my vette.

And don't sweat the small stuff. And remember, it's all small stuff

If this were your 1st post, you had a location in, oh, lets say, Pakistan, Delhi, Brisbane (UK), etc., and at the end of a post that would likely make no sense, other than to include a couple of phrases (catch words) from the original post/thread, then ended with a link to Viagra, i-Pods, MP3's, Low Cost drugs, etc...then we'd be worried

to the site and enjoy. You ressurected an old thread, but that's why we keep them around

Never know when some good or new information is going to hit the page.

Enjoy the site

Oh, BTW. My son has an 87 GN that we're restoring. It would out run (not outhandle) my 87 vette any day of the week! Bad assed cars in the day...and a back seat to boot!

[Bradzvette]

Originally Posted by Prestige593

MYTH #1 : .

No where does it state that excessive speed is reckless. If you received a citaion for reckless driving, and you were "ONLY" travelling 25 (+) M.P.H. over the posted speed than that citaion would be invalid. (example) If the excessive speed, accompanied with cutting around other vehicles, on wet roads, where pedestrians were present that is another story.

What about the new 30 over law? Didnt that make it criminal?

Speeding is one of the most prevalent factors contributing to traffic crashes. NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration)

I respectfully disagree. Tailgating (little to no stopping time not only for the tailgaiting driver but also the driver behind the tailgater etc and etc that causes a chain reaction) and inattentive drivers (ie; cell phones etc.) are the biggest causes. And dont forget DUIs. I do not accept the validity of the NHTSA, they have their agnedas.

I have been a Police Officer for 12 yrs in a large city,

Thank you for your service, I am sure you have positively impacted many lives.

I am not pulling this information out of my @ss. I do know that laser jammers are a waste of money and do NOT work.

I had the blinder, it does work. sold for engine mods, was doing anygood sitting in a non running car, LOL

yes there are cops who write other cops tickets out there

Really? TPD (Tampa Police Department, Hillsborough) in their patrol cars who live in Pasco county when late for their shift are constantly hauling ass on the suncoast/veterans and pass FHP and they do nothing. Wish I had a free pass when I was late for work.

For the rest of you, If you get caught speeding then take your licks. My advice to you is not to argue w/ the officer (or worse Trooper), just accept the citaion and drive off. Trust me, you wont win the argument

I agree, you play sometimes you have have to pay.

and may just piss him/her off to write more citations.

This is disturbing

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