New Member complaint

[gmjunkie]

Originally Posted by Ms. AntiVenom

Well understood Mr.Junk You must talk to Greg allot, you sound just like him!

Nope,Haven't talked to Greg in about a year,I only bother him when I've got one making me pull the precious little of my hair out!!It might be a good time to call and say"How the heck you doing?"!!

[Rich Z]

Gang, this thread is a serious issue. Please refrain from the off topic chatter within it. Hate to be a wet banket, but I think some focus is called for here.

Thanks....

[Someoneyoushouldknow]

He had the money since March. My check was written as of March 15th. I understand being busy why do you think it took me this long to go down there. I still don't know all the details of why my engine is blown, Lord knows I wish I did.

I'm sorry you think there are holes in my story or that it doesn't make sense. I believed him when he said he was working on it. I listened to the excuses which ranged from personal to professional. I was told in July it would be a "couple of weeks" I was told Nov 2nd a "couple of days". We've been friends for 6 years or so, and not just casual friends either, the kind that actually do things for each other. We've always taken care of each other before. I didn't think he'd lie to me about working on it.

Yes, my circumstances changed to need my car back but it should have been done long ago.

I've been trying to keep it from this point I gave him two weeks to respond to me to tell me what was going on before I went down there. It broke my heart to see my car sitting there. I was hoping all along that my other friends were wrong. The only thing that's even gotten his attention was me posting on here.

[Rich Z]

Well, personally I think that both Chris and yourself need to just sit down together and work this out. Put it on paper, if necessary, so there is no mistake about what is expected. I don't know the details, but it is unfortunate to see a friendship shattered, no matter what the reasons.

[xtrememotorsports]

Originally Posted by Someoneyoushouldknow

He had the money since March. My check was written as of March 15th. I understand being busy why do you think it took me this long to go down there. I still don't know all the details of why my engine is blown, Lord knows I wish I did.

I'm sorry you think there are holes in my story or that it doesn't make sense. I believed him when he said he was working on it. I listened to the excuses which ranged from personal to professional. I was told in July it would be a "couple of weeks" I was told Nov 2nd a "couple of days". We've been friends for 6 years or so, and not just casual friends either, the kind that actually do things for each other. We've always taken care of each other before. I didn't think he'd lie to me about working on it.

Yes, my circumstances changed to need my car back but it should have been done long ago.

I've been trying to keep it from this point I gave him two weeks to respond to me to tell me what was going on before I went down there. It broke my heart to see my car sitting there. I was hoping all along that my other friends were wrong. The only thing that's even gotten his attention was me posting on here.

Liz,
I have told you this and I will tell you again. I am sorry you think of me as a terrible person. We have been friends for a loonngg time and this of all things would have been the last thing I would have wanted to happen to our friendship.
I have spoken with you and also we have txd back and forth although I do admit me being a one-two man shop it is hard to get a hold of me at all times. We are trying to fix that!
I am not going to get on this site and have a bitch fest with you it will lead nowhere.

Now when you were at my shop Friday we discussed a solution to this problem, you showed me a blank contract you had written up. I told you we would get it filled out sit down come to an agreement and get it taken care. You emailed me late Friday night I didnt get home from the shop til 2am it was suppose to be way earlier but that did not happen.

Then on Sunday you start this... point is I thought Friday we had come to an agreement and we were gonna get together and put it in writing to satisfy BOTH parties because originally we had nothing in writing because this was all being done on the side to help you NOT for profit.

[Someoneyoushouldknow]

Originally Posted by Rich Z

I'm sorry, but a lot of this just doesn't make sense to me..

Your car started having problems "in Dec of last year maybe earlier", so you and Chris "took the belts off and couldn't figure it out. We put new belts on. It still wasn't right, then we thought it was the water pump." So at that point "I was sent to a different shop to get the water pump changed, turned out it was the air compressor. I didn't have the money at the time to fix it so I went with a bypass." The original problem was a noise, and it was running slightly hot, a little bit of smoke as well. I don't see any mention of that the actual original problem was that you were trying to diagnose, but then "The other shop called me and said I needed a whole new engine".

So then you state "I picked the car up all the while on the phone with chris talking to him about how shady it was. He agreed.", which sounds to me you were the one making the claims about how "shady" the other shop was and Chris must have simply made some indication that he agreed.He met me where the car died and looked at it and told me it was fried.He didn't understand what was going on either, He'd looked at the car prior to it going and saw no indications that the engine was it's way out.

"Nothing he could do at this point my engine was screwed.", but yet you were able to "pick the car up"? The guy told me it was drivable. But then you state "We transported it to his shop in March of 09", where the term "transported" used here seems to indicate that it was not driven, but was perhaps towed?We put it on a trailer and brought it to Chris' So was the engine "screwed" before you took it to the other shop, or did that happen while it was in their care?

So after it was transported to Chris's shop, "Where it has sat since." Earlier you stated "I didn't have the money at the time to fix it so I went with a bypass." Did you at this time have enough money to replace the engine?I thought I posted that later, I got the money to buy my trailblazer and fix the GTP. So you then state "I've contacted several times every month when I write a check for insurance, off and on several times since July 31 when I got my new phone over 65 times.", which I am having trouble interpreting, but from between March and July 31 you tried contacting Chris "several times"? At what point did you PAY him for the work you needed done on your car?March 15th

It appears YOUR priorities changed when "On Nov 1st I was hit by a drunk driver in my Trailblazer, I called Chris from the accident scene. I begged him to complete my other car because I now needed it." Just from texts and not phone call here are the dates of contact from me to him referring to the car 7/31,8/14, 8/20, 8/23,8/31, 9/1, 9/15, 9/17, 9/28, 10/4, 10/10,10/12, 10/22, 11/2, 11/3, 11/4, 11/5, 11/6, 11/8 11/9, 11/10, 11/11, 11/12, 11/13, 11/14, 11/16, 11/17, 11/19, 11/22, 11/23, 11/24, 11/30, 12/1, 12/2, 12/3, 12/6, 12/7, 12/12, 12/13 More then half the time there was no reply and at least from Nov 30th till the 12th of Dec there was NO response at allIndicating that prior to this time, this really wasn't on the front burner for you, but suddenly became so, and you expected Chris to drop everything he had going on at the time and make YOUR now new top priority HIS as well.

I dunno, but there seems to be a lot of gaps in this story. Do you have anything at all in WRITING concerning what arrangements were made between yourself and Chris about the repairs on your car? It just appears from what I can gather from the above post that from March through November 1, you somehow developed a bum engine, which was not Chris's fault, quite possibly caused by something done at the "different shop". What was this "bypass" you mentioned? Could it have contributed to the engine problem in your efforts to save money? [COLOR="Red"]It was driven less than a mile with the bypass on it. [/color] I'm guessing you drove it home, then had it towed to Chris's shop, and unless you suddenly came up with enough money to have the engine fixed, quite likely told Chris to just hold it there until such time that you could afford to have it fixed. I don't see any indication of when that point in time occurred where you actually paid for any work to be done, unfortunately.[COLOR="Red"]I think I posted it multiple times 3/15/2009[/color]

So finally Friday you took a trip to his shop. Was Chris there? Did you speak to him?[COLOR="Red"]Yes and Yes. It was not pretty.[/color]

I believe in another post you claimed that Chris has both your car and your money. When did he get your money and what was the arrangement that was agreed to at that time? It would be great if you had this in writing so there is no confusion of the facts due to a misunderstanding which often happens in verbal discussions. Sometimes a "whenever you can get to it" means something completely different to each side of the discussion.

Facts and details really help in situations like this, if for no other reason then to try to have both sides of the discussion look at possible failures that both may have contributed to in the breakdown in communications.

Hopefully that works I don't know how to quote and break up.

[Someoneyoushouldknow]

Chris you aren't a terrible person, what you did was terrible. I don't want to bitch back and forth either, but it would have been weeks before you ever responded and you know that. At least it opened a line of communication.

In a twisted kind of way it makes me laugh because I've been getting screwed in front of my friends for months but the second it happens in front of yours... it makes a difference. The male ego is a fragile thing.

[Rich Z]

Originally Posted by Someoneyoushouldknow

Chris you aren't a terrible person, what you did was terrible. I don't want to bitch back and forth either, but it would have been weeks before you ever responded and you know that. At least it opened a line of communication.

In a twisted kind of way it makes me laugh because I've been getting screwed in front of my friends for months but the second it happens in front of yours... it makes a difference. The male ego is a fragile thing.

Liz, I'm sorry but for someone who claims to have a law degree hanging on your wall, do you really think it is legally advisable to admit on a public forum that the purpose of your posting on this forum is to "screw" Chris?

Do you really think that post helps matters between you two, or is that not really your intent at all here?

[Z06 Rocket]

Originally Posted by Someoneyoushouldknow

it's hard to make a four hour trip down there,

If your both in Tallahassee why does it take 4 hours to get to the shop? You can basically leave the state from Orlando in 4 hours.......

[Shadow]

Originally Posted by Z06 Rocket

If your both in Tallahassee why does it take 4 hours to get to the shop? You can basically leave the state from Orlando in 4 hours.......

So I see you've planned this trip before...Planning on leaving the state are ya?

But seriously, he's correct If both of you are in Tallahassee and both of you are "long time friends", why is it so difficult to go by the shop?