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Originally Posted by Guro305
Halleluiah brother! Miami-Dade Police Dept. gets it done one way or the other. Usually shooting first asking questions later.
Check it's history. They have a long history of being proactive rather then reactive. It's amazing there has been such little reports of police brutality to ever come out of the Miami-Dade Police Dept. I think it's a damn shame that the rest of the state's LEOs don't have the same approach and/or at least the people to back them on it.
Not to mention that if the bad guys carry assault rifles, why can't LEOs? When LEOs get around to popping a few of these punks all around the state in different jurisdictions, then maybe we'll see some improvements.
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Although I agree for the most part, there's a couple of issues I'd like to try to clarify.
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Miami-Dade Police Dept. gets it done one way or the other. Usually shooting first asking questions later.
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Thats usually not an accepted practice and will get your agency federally investigated and officers indicted pretty routinely. Despite what they say, the "feds" are really not on our side
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Check it's history. They have a long history of being proactive rather then reactive. It's amazing there has been such little reports of police brutality to ever come out of the Miami-Dade Police Dept. I think it's a damn shame that the rest of the state's LEOs don't have the same approach and/or at least the people to back them on it.
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There's a reason for that. In the 60's, 70's, 80's, Metro-Dade was not the department of choice to model
There was a lot of corruption and if you'll really look back, you'll actually see there were investigations, indictments, firings, and use of force complaints pretty regularly.
Our Sheriff in the 70's was of the opinion that we would be polite to the masses...as long as they don't put thier hands on you
AT that point, someone went to jail. Maybe via the local hospital, but to jail all the same
The rest of the state did study Miami as a model of what not to do.
In it's latter years, it got better and became more of a progressive agency
Administraors/Administrations are by and large, no longer cops, they're politicians, business managers. They are still badged and armed, but every bit the politician. Thier tactics vary widely depending on locale, but for the most part, are politically driven
They will do/say whatever they think is best for thier chance of being re-elsected or re-appointed. Even a local Sheriff in this area, who is recently well respected for his stance on a recent shooting, behind closed doors has the same approach. You work for me at my leisure. If you piss my "customers" off, I'll fire you.....
It is, has and always will be that way...it's still politics as usual.
And that brings me to the final point:
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Not to mention that if the bad guys carry assault rifles, why can't LEOs? When LEOs get around to popping a few of these punks all around the state in different jurisdictions, then maybe we'll see some improvement
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LEO's in many jurisdictions have been carrying assault rifles in thier vehicles since the late 70's early 80's.
At the Sheriff's office, I carried Ruger, K-mini14 GBF, stainless steel, retractable stock, marine version, assault rifle in .223
Many of the guys were carrying AR15/CAR15's and M-16 rifles among others.
You purchased them, qualified with them and carried them.
But, you should have seen the fight just to switch to a semi-automatic sidearm from the old revolvers (some still haven't made the switch
). As a weapons instructor, it was astounding how difficult it was to break that mold! First it was descretionary and you purchased your own weapon. Later in some agencies, the weapon was purchased for you and assigned (usually low bid).
I know for a fact that PBCSO is/has changed thier policy on assault rifles and are now even looking into mounting them on thier motorcycle units (again, this was done here years ago, they're just catching up.) Most of us removed them due to safety and security concerns. There's really no way to secure a rifle to a fibreglass saddle bag. The hinge points on the saddle bad are the weak point.
As far as this shooting, I can't get into details, but I received some inside information this afternoon that disturbs and somewhat saddens me regarding Metro-Dade/Browards response
Suffice to say that vigilatism is
NOT what police work is about
Had they done it differently, the outcome would have been the same, justice would still have been served and the maggot would still be dead...