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View Poll Results: What is your "General Impression" of LEO
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They are usually pretty fair
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Most are corrupt & show favoritism to other LEO
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02-14-2011, 09:30 AM
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!ereH nI depparT m'I pleH
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: 25 miles south of Boston, MA. Also have a house in Dunedin FL.
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Name : Andy Anderson
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Originally Posted by Kap142
Just a couple of short points if I may.
1) Having spent my entire career in Law Enforcement for a good sized agency and having interaction with many agencies all across the country I have NEVER met a corrupt LEO. Have officers,deputies/troopers made mistakes that cost them their jobs or careers? Yes they have.
2) Professional curtesy to other officers is not a given. I remember giving a ticket to an NYPD because an attitude about being exempt or above the law. It was his attitude that got him the ticket (just as with anyone I ever stopped). I was never a "big on traffic unit" but if faced with an obvious infraction I would work them as necessary and with all the curtesy I was allowed by the driver.
3) Have I ever shown professional curtesy to another officer, yes. We walked in the same dangerous shoes and pursued through the same dangerous streets and gone through the same dangerous doors after people who would take our life with no concern for us or our families.
4) What you say about attitude of officers is a bit misguided. Most (not all) are truly super people. Take them out of uniform and get to know them and you'll probably like what you find. Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. Were their LEO's I didn't care for, yes. Were their ego's, yes. Just don't use too broad of a brush.
Just my observations.
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Good points! And I agree with all of them and especially #4. I've met some SUPER people at Vette shows and find out after the fact that they are/were LEO's. Never would have known if someone hadn't told me.
Andy
for LEO's and the jobs that they do!
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02-14-2011, 09:42 AM
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Thanks Andy for me and all the boys and girls who wear a star or badge.
Ken
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02-14-2011, 09:51 AM
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Member
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Location: JAX FL
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Name : Bob Fletcher
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My best bud here in Jacksonville is a now retired J S O and told me of a car that over took him on I 95 at 95 or so MPH with New York plates. As the car passed him the guy shows a badge to the side window. That must make it OK the JSO told me. He did pull him over and told him to slow down and the badge thing is not the way to go in florida. did he give him a brake yes, was he do one if he is willing to stop a bullet in his job. I think so .
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02-14-2011, 05:28 PM
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Location: Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kap142
Just a couple of short points if I may.
1) Having spent my entire career in Law Enforcement for a good sized agency and having interaction with many agencies all across the country I have NEVER met a corrupt LEO. Have officers,deputies/troopers made mistakes that cost them their jobs or careers? Yes they have.
2) Professional curtesy to other officers is not a given. I remember giving a ticket to an NYPD because an attitude about being exempt or above the law. It was his attitude that got him the ticket (just as with anyone I ever stopped). I was never a "big on traffic unit" but if faced with an obvious infraction I would work them as necessary and with all the curtesy I was allowed by the driver.
3) Have I ever shown professional curtesy to another officer, yes. We walked in the same dangerous shoes and pursued through the same dangerous streets and gone through the same dangerous doors after people who would take our life with no concern for us or our families.
4) What you say about attitude of officers is a bit misguided. Most (not all) are truly super people. Take them out of uniform and get to know them and you'll probably like what you find. Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. Were their LEO's I didn't care for, yes. Were their ego's, yes. Just don't use too broad of a brush.
Just my observations.
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Well said. I agree.
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02-14-2011, 06:58 PM
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!ereH nI depparT m'I pleH
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: 25 miles south of Boston, MA. Also have a house in Dunedin FL.
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Name : Andy Anderson
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After thinking about this some more, 2 points came to me.....
1. Suppose I'm at an Eric Clapton concert. Do I get to go backstage and see Eric? probably not, because I'm just Andy Anderson. BUT........if my name is Mick Jagger and I'm a member of the Rolling Stones, I probably get ASKED if I want to go backstage. Just about any scenario you can come up with will probably be the same. It happens EVERYWHERE to one degree or another, even with the LEO's.
2. You have NO idea what the LEO just came from! Maybe he just left the scene where a speeder hit a minivan killing or severely injuring one or more small children, or from the funeral of a co-worker. They might have just come from a situation where they got shot at. I've been shot at with the intent to kill, and I can tell you that it isn't any fun....PERIOD! YOU might just be the beneficiary of something like that and don't even have a clue what's pissing him/her off, and they DAMN SURE ain't gonna share that info with you! That's why I always try to be polite and pleasant with the LEO. Hell, if you were pulled over it was probably because you were "noticed" and deserved to be pulled over anyway.
There are probably a million more points, but these 2 just jumped out at me.,
Andy
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02-15-2011, 11:23 AM
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Deceased
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Location: Sunshine State
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Name : Bob Korreck
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Quote:
Originally Posted by navy2kcoupe
1. Suppose I'm at an Eric Clapton concert. Do I get to go backstage and see Eric?
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Who's he? I remember that name from someplace but I think he was before my time. I never dreamed you were that much older than me Andy.
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02-15-2011, 11:30 AM
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2. You have NO idea what the LEO just came from! Maybe he just left the scene where a speeder hit a minivan killing or severely injuring one or more small children, or from the funeral of a co-worker. They might have just come from a situation where they got shot at. I've been shot at with the intent to kill, and I can tell you that it isn't any fun....PERIOD! YOU might just be the beneficiary of something like that and don't even have a clue what's pissing him/her off, and they DAMN SURE ain't gonna share that info with you! That's why I always try to be polite and pleasant with the LEO. Hell, if you were pulled over it was probably because you were "noticed" and deserved to be pulled over anyway.
There are probably a million more points, but these 2 just jumped out at me
Very sharp Andy and oh so true. thanks
Ken
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02-15-2011, 12:15 PM
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Name : Bob Korreck
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kap142
2. You have NO idea what the LEO just came from! Maybe he just left the scene where a speeder hit a minivan killing or severely injuring one or more small children, or from the funeral of a co-worker. They might have just come from a situation where they got shot at. I've been shot at with the intent to kill, and I can tell you that it isn't any fun....PERIOD! YOU might just be the beneficiary of something like that and don't even have a clue what's pissing him/her off, and they DAMN SURE ain't gonna share that info with you! That's why I always try to be polite and pleasant with the LEO. Hell, if you were pulled over it was probably because you were "noticed" and deserved to be pulled over anyway.
There are probably a million more points, but these 2 just jumped out at me
Very sharp Andy and oh so true. thanks
Ken
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A few weeks ago I posted that Ii thought 99.5% of cops were good guys. Then I changed that because of exactly what Andy said. We all have our bad days.
Can one of you guys tell me where the term "cop" came from?
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02-15-2011, 12:39 PM
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COP= constable on patrol (UK)
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02-15-2011, 12:48 PM
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Name : Bob Korreck
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kap142
COP= constable on patrol (UK)
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Thanks, I never knew that.
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