chatroom night

[mrr23]

who wants to try tonight? i have supercharger talk to discuss.

[Rich Z]

I'll try to give it a go.... 8 o'clock, right?

[mrr23]

i'm in

[Rich Z]

Here's the chat log from tonight:

Welcome! You have entered [The Lobby] at 4:00 pm
[Rich Z] 4:01 pm: testing!
[The Lobby]: mrr23 has entered at 4:01 pm
[Rich Z] 4:01 pm: another color test
[mrr23] 4:01 pm: and i'm here!!
[Rich Z] 4:01 pm: Yay!
[mrr23] 4:01 pm: a good contrast
[Rich Z] 4:02 pm: Pink would probably look good, but, well, you know......
[mrr23] 4:03 pm: yeah
[Rich Z] 4:03 pm: So you're looking at superchargers?
[mrr23] 4:03 pm: kinda have a green light on it
[mrr23] 4:03 pm: also looked at sts
[mrr23] 4:03 pm: but that's alot of work to put on
[Rich Z] 4:03 pm: Yeah, I went through the selection process myself when I was trying to decide.
[mrr23] 4:03 pm: little better power though
[mrr23] 4:04 pm: a&a and ecs so far
[mrr23] 4:04 pm: maggie easier but needs hood
[Rich Z] 4:04 pm: Not sure what is new right now that would make me decide differently.
[Rich Z] 4:05 pm: I heard they all had issues with throwing belts and being a real pain trying to put it back on while on the road.
[mrr23] 4:05 pm: maggie makes less
[Rich Z] 4:05 pm: Doesn't Edelbrock have a new unit that will fit under the hood?
[mrr23] 4:05 pm: maybe for c6
[mrr23] 4:06 pm: i had an idea about getting more people involved in chat night
[Rich Z] 4:06 pm: All things considered STS was the only one that made sense to me.
[mrr23] 4:06 pm: maybe look at he last ten people that logged in and send them an email
[mrr23] 4:06 pm: i like sts
[Rich Z] 4:06 pm: Probably need to have pics of nakid women to get others interested....
[mrr23] 4:07 pm: do small emails from the board
[mrr23] 4:07 pm: well you can make a private section ;P
[mrr23] 4:07 pm:
[Rich Z] 4:07 pm: There already is one. The Roadhouse forum..
[mrr23] 4:07 pm: tell them they can only get access if they chat at least once
[mrr23] 4:08 pm: oh well
[Rich Z] 4:08 pm: Hasn't been anyone in there lately, so it would be a hollow threat.
[mrr23] 4:08 pm: hehe
[Rich Z] 4:09 pm: Hooked up my wideband today so I can do some more logging tomorrow. Want to check on the changes I've done with PE.
[mrr23] 4:10 pm: seems you are definately getting it better
[Rich Z] 4:10 pm: Yeah, the throttle response has improved DRAMATICALLY. Actually surprised the heck out of me when I went out for a test drive.
[Rich Z] 4:11 pm: But I want to make sure AFR is not doing something out of kilter when PE kicks in at those lower revs.
[mrr23] 4:11 pm: i gathered that
[mrr23] 4:12 pm: yeah don't need to mess up the motor
[mrr23] 4:12 pm: especially number 7 cylinder
[Rich Z] 4:12 pm: I also want to see when boost kicks in. Seemed like it was coming on REAL early during my drive.
[Rich Z] 4:12 pm: I think the fuel system I worked out will help with #7. Should keep it from going lean on me.
[Rich Z] 4:14 pm: Plus I've got a dual fuel pump system with -8 tubing to keep fuel going to the cylinders.
[Rich Z] 4:15 pm: So back to the superchargers. Leaning towards one in particular?
[mrr23] 4:17 pm: a&a or ecs
[mrr23] 4:17 pm: teo best
[mrr23] 4:18 pm: no edelbrock for c5
[mrr23] 4:18 pm: two
[Rich Z] 4:18 pm: Never did understand why aftermarket manufacturers would ignore older models in favor of the newer ones.
[mrr23] 4:18 pm: c6 and c7
[Rich Z] 4:19 pm: Darn if I would want to void my warranty on that expensive new motor.
[Rich Z] 4:19 pm: There are a LOT of C5s out on the road.
[Rich Z] 4:20 pm: I guess if I had my arm twisted such that I HAD to pick a SC I would likely choose a maggie. Even with a new hood.
[mrr23] 4:21 pm: yeah i wouldnt mind
[mrr23] 4:21 pm: a couple places are doing a&a installed with tuning for 6000
[mrr23] 4:21 pm: found one here in florida
[Rich Z] 4:22 pm: Check the power band on whatever you look at. Is it going to put power where you want it to be?
[Rich Z] 4:22 pm: Make sure they know what they are doing. A WHOLE lot of shysters out there.
[Rich Z] 4:24 pm: A lot of them will just load in a tune that comes with the kit and call it a day.
[mrr23] 4:24 pm: i know the owner of next level performance here in orlando. i might ask if he'll do the same
[mrr23] 4:25 pm: he'd rather install a supercharger over and sts just due to ease
[mrr23] 4:25 pm: but he'll do either
[Rich Z] 4:25 pm: Yeah, but is it what YOU want for YOUR car?
[mrr23] 4:26 pm: i like the a&a just for the fact of open the hood and people gawk
[Rich Z] 4:26 pm: I've seen people downing STS, but from what I could tell, most never drove a car properly set up with one.
[mrr23] 4:26 pm: versus hey look under my rear bumper
[Rich Z] 4:26 pm: Heck, for that kind of appeal nothing is going to beat the maggie!
[mrr23] 4:26 pm: so i wrestle with vanity :grin:
[mrr23] 4:27 pm: i pick a&a over maggie due to over all power
[mrr23] 4:27 pm: been reading on corvette forum
[mrr23] 4:27 pm: and i've seen it personally
[mrr23] 4:27 pm: car went from amggie to centrifugal and made much more
[mrr23] 4:27 pm: about 30 rwhp
[Rich Z] 4:27 pm: Anyone who hears an STS system is going to know something is up. Pretty awesome sound.
[mrr23] 4:28 pm: there was a guy local to me when i had my formula that put an sts on
[mrr23] 4:28 pm: his vette
[mrr23] 4:28 pm: it's just all the piping and oil lines
[Rich Z] 4:28 pm: Yeah, but was the power in a band where it would be most fun to you? More power up at 5500+ rpm isn't where the fun will be at.
[Rich Z] 4:29 pm: You only live once, so get what you think will be BEST, not the easiest on the wrencher.
[mrr23] 4:30 pm: turbo is best overall i know
[mrr23] 4:30 pm: don't have to pin the crank
[mrr23] 4:30 pm: no belt slip issues
[Rich Z] 4:30 pm: That was the opinion I came to. But I didn't like all the heat that the front mounts would put under the hood.
[Rich Z] 4:31 pm: You really should pin the crank anyway. Sooner or later it's going to come loose.
[Rich Z] 4:31 pm: I don't know what GM just used a press on fit there.
[Rich Z] 4:31 pm: what = why
[mrr23] 4:31 pm: http://www.tpsmotorsports.com/upp-c5...turbo-kit.html
[mrr23] 4:32 pm: upp turbo
[mrr23] 4:32 pm: don't care for it being next to the fender
[mrr23] 4:32 pm: i saw other pictures showing the oil lines running under the crossmember
[Rich Z] 4:33 pm: Yeah, I don't neither. Those suckers can get HOT. Been cases of them starting fires under the hood and melting crap.
[Rich Z] 4:33 pm: You would have to cover the turbos really well to keep the heat from causing problems down the road.
[Rich Z] 4:36 pm: Look at the pipes in this video -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLlasRLIhDs
[mrr23] 4:36 pm: i've always been a nitrous person all my car life
[Rich Z] 4:36 pm: Never tried nitrous myself. Guess I heard to many horror stories about it, and it scared me.
[mrr23] 4:37 pm: yeah i was scared the first time i ever used it on my 79 z28
[mrr23] 4:37 pm: did it in 3rd gear auto first
[mrr23] 4:37 pm: then 2nd then 1st
[mrr23] 4:38 pm: you have a meth kit?
[mrr23] 4:38 pm: and that was back in the 90s
[Rich Z] 4:38 pm: Hah! Want something to stroke your vanity? Try this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EaCnDCsslM
[Rich Z] 4:39 pm: Nope, no meth. I'm at 11.6 psi of boost, and haven't seen any need for it yet.
[mrr23] 4:40 pm: i had an engine book by s/a that showed a mtoor with all that on it
[Rich Z] 4:40 pm: Yeah, I guess there is no real reason why I couldn't put a maggie on my engine. But talk about overkill....
[mrr23] 4:42 pm: yeah
[Rich Z] 4:42 pm: Or I should say MORE overkill.....
[mrr23] 4:42 pm: you could use nitrous to cool down the intake charge say a 50 shot
[mrr23] 4:42 pm: but a meth kit might be cheaper
[Rich Z] 4:43 pm: Man, I dunno. That's even more plumbing to have to worry about. I'm not intending to put my car on the track, so I don't think it's necessary for the street.
[mrr23] 4:46 pm: guy here i aligned his vette has a meth kit in his. uses the washer fluid tank
[Rich Z] 4:47 pm: Yeah, I've heard of people doing that. So how does one KNOW they need meth anyway?
[mrr23] 4:49 pm: check for knock retard under full boost
[mrr23] 4:49 pm: keeps cylinder pressures down
[Rich Z] 4:50 pm: Well, I'm good then. That was something I was watching like a hawk when working on the tune. I thought my timing was really too far advanced, but not a peep out of the sensors.
[mrr23] 4:52 pm: you have any internals done to your car?
[mrr23] 4:52 pm: cam heads?
[Rich Z] 4:53 pm: The entire engine is custom by LME. Based on a RHS block. EVERYTHING, pretty much, is custom on that thing.
[mrr23] 4:53 pm: didn't know
[mrr23] 4:53 pm: have you posted about it?
[mrr23] 4:53 pm: guess i could search
[Rich Z] 4:54 pm: HAH! Make a BIG bowl of popcorn and allocate most of a day -> http://www.corvetteflorida.com/forum...ad.php?t=44697
[mrr23] 4:55 pm: over 101 pages
[mrr23] 4:55 pm: yeah it'll take awhile
[mrr23] 4:55 pm: is there a condensed list of what's done in there?
[mrr23] 4:56 pm: guess i coould post my 200 formula webpages
[Rich Z] 4:56 pm: Nope. Been meaning to do that, but not high on the priority list. But it's a saga, for certain.
[mrr23] 4:56 pm: 427
[Rich Z] 4:57 pm: Yeah. I felt that a Corvette HAS to have a 427 engine in it. Wish they had put one in the C7. It killed my desire for a ZR-1 when I found out that based it on the LS3 block.
[Rich Z] 4:58 pm: Short story is that two shops screwed me over big time. I brought the car home and figured out what I needed to do in order to fix the crap they did. Luckily I had a lift in my garage.
[Rich Z] 5:03 pm: Well, guess no one else is going to log in here. Time for me to spend some time with the wife watching Seinfeld reruns on DVD. Try to catch you again next week, I guess. Thanks....

Shame more of you can't find the time to join in.....

[mrr23]

People are missing out for sure

[mrr23]

so what should this thursday night discussion be about? i'm thinking because i don't know too many people on here, let's discuss what we do with our cars. daily drive? drag race? autocross? show car? then. we can expand our discussion through the coming weeks about each category and share some insights.

[Rich Z]

Aren't you getting tired of only talking to me here?

[mrr23]

Not yet. Hopefully people will see this and when we hit a topic that interest them, they'll pop in. Like I suggested last time aybe ail the last ten people that logged in each day.

[mrr23]

going in just in case someone feels the need

[Rich Z]

Sorry, I was trying to fix a printer problem for the wife.....