black-out lenses

[SteveK]

Good stuff! Thanks! Dave!
And to the site.
Please chime in at any time and keep us on the up & up.

[ynkedad]

Originally Posted by tktlwyr

I am a new owner

to the Forum Dave!
"If they dim the light emitted from the stop lamp at 300 feet...you loose. If they alter the color of the light emitted from red or amber".
Dave

I guess i'll be going outside tonight and measuring off 300' to see if they're "dimmed" or not seen. If so...OFF they come!

Thanks for the info Dave . Now post some .

~Ray

[tktlwyr]

Remember Ray...the statute says normal sunlight.

Dave

[ynkedad]

Ok...i'll wait till tomarrow.

[Shadow]

Originally Posted by tktlwyr

Remember Ray...the statute says normal sunlight.

Dave

Thats the key

A particular officer with Ocala PD was harassing a member of a club I am with over blackouts on his Z28.

I reviewed the statute, measured off a distance + (to keep it legit) and did video and still photography with and without using normal sunlight.

Not that much difference in the 2 with his particular set up. They just wern't that black!

Got a copy of the NWS report for the day/time and location and some other supporting information, and sent a letter to the Chief.

He hasn't had a problem since

Just have to do your homework.

I'm with Dave thought. I like the look, especially on a black car. I'll keep them for shows and keep them locked away for the street. It's easy enough to get sued today as it is. There's no reason to give the insurance company another reason to deny coverage or add fuel to a PI attorney's fire

Dave, welcome to the site

Glad to have the legal expertise on board

Gordon

[C5STATETROOPER]

Years ago a young man in Lakeland put black panty hose over his CRX lenses. He was rearended by a lady and my Trooper gave her a citation for the collision. She lost the fight against the ticket in court and was guilty of the careless driving.

Fast forward to civil court, he lost this time around since he placed an object on his car that was not in compliance with FL law and the jury felt that it contributed to the crash. $100,000.00 lesson for this kid . . .

[98 softtail]

OK, now how about this scenerio...

I am stopped at a light on level ground, manual transmission, no need to have my foot on the brake to light up my brake lights but I do have the evil "blackouts" on my car, another driver plows into the back of my car, their defense being that they didnot see my brakelights because of my evil "blackouts" but because my foot was not on the brake at the time of the accident there were no brakelights to light-up.
In this case there is no distance to be judged so where does the fault lie here?
How would such a civil case be brought forth before the court?

Joe B.

[Rich Z]

Well honestly if the driver could not see your vehicle stopped at the intersection NOR the stoplight itself, I seriously doubt the blackouts would be a significant influence in the accident.

Hell, is it OK to run over pedestrians when they are jaywalking?

[98 softtail]

Rich I agree, If they couldn't see that big butt-end of my yellow vette sitting there I don't think there would be much of a case.

[Shadow]

Originally Posted by 98 softtail

OK, now how about this scenerio...

I am stopped at a light on level ground, manual transmission, no need to have my foot on the brake to light up my brake lights but I do have the evil "blackouts" on my car, another driver plows into the back of my car, their defense being that they didnot see my brakelights because of my evil "blackouts" but because my foot was not on the brake at the time of the accident there were no brakelights to light-up.
In this case there is no distance to be judged so where does the fault lie here?
How would such a civil case be brought forth before the court?

Joe B.

Joe,

In the crash you describe, the blackouts would not be an issue since you didn't have your foot on the brake or the lights illuminated and since there was no reason to do so.

The person in the striking vehicle should be cited with the crash.

If it were me, I'd be doing a little HGN or let's step over here and do what I ask you to do