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Originally Posted by Rich Z
Gang, this thread is a serious issue. Please refrain from the off topic chatter within it. Hate to be a wet banket, but I think some focus is called for here.
Thanks....
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Originally Posted by Someoneyoushouldknow
He had the money since March. My check was written as of March 15th. I understand being busy why do you think it took me this long to go down there. I still don't know all the details of why my engine is blown, Lord knows I wish I did.
I'm sorry you think there are holes in my story or that it doesn't make sense. I believed him when he said he was working on it. I listened to the excuses which ranged from personal to professional. I was told in July it would be a "couple of weeks" I was told Nov 2nd a "couple of days". We've been friends for 6 years or so, and not just casual friends either, the kind that actually do things for each other. We've always taken care of each other before. I didn't think he'd lie to me about working on it.
Yes, my circumstances changed to need my car back but it should have been done long ago.
I've been trying to keep it from this point I gave him two weeks to respond to me to tell me what was going on before I went down there. It broke my heart to see my car sitting there. I was hoping all along that my other friends were wrong. The only thing that's even gotten his attention was me posting on here.
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Liz, when it sat from July through November (if I read the time line correctly?) why not do something then? Friends or not, if I take my car to a shop and need it worked on, unless I'm really not in a hurry, I want it done in less than 9-10 months. Hell, you can rebuild a car in that time from the ground up!
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Originally Posted by Rich Z
Well, personally I think that both Chris and yourself need to just sit down together and work this out. Put it on paper, if necessary, so there is no mistake about what is expected. I don't know the details, but it is unfortunate to see a friendship shattered, no matter what the reasons.
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Apparently that happened....
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Originally Posted by xtrememotorsports
Liz,
I have told you this and I will tell you again. I am sorry you think of me as a terrible person. We have been friends for a loonngg time and this of all things would have been the last thing I would have wanted to happen to our friendship.
I have spoken with you and also we have txd back and forth although I do admit me being a one-two man shop it is hard to get a hold of me at all times. We are trying to fix that!
I am not going to get on this site and have a bitch fest with you it will lead nowhere.
Now when you were at my shop Friday we discussed a solution to this problem, you showed me a blank contract you had written up. I told you we would get it filled out sit down come to an agreement and get it taken care. You emailed me late Friday night I didnt get home from the shop til 2am it was suppose to be way earlier but that did not happen.
Then on Sunday you start this... point is I thought Friday we had come to an agreement and we were gonna get together and put it in writing to satisfy BOTH parties because originally we had nothing in writing because this was all being done on the side to help you NOT for profit.
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You guys need to sit down with an independent mediator and hammer this thing out! It's apparent from both sides that, for whatever reason, work schedules, lives, distance, whatever? you two can't seem to get it worked out on your own
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Originally Posted by Someoneyoushouldknow
Chris you aren't a terrible person, what you did was terrible. I don't want to bitch back and forth either, but it would have been weeks before you ever responded and you know that. At least it opened a line of communication.
In a twisted kind of way it makes me laugh because I've been getting screwed in front of my friends for months but the second it happens in front of yours... it makes a difference. The male ego is a fragile thing.
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Kind of kinky...
Seriously though, if you're an attorney as Rich implies below, wouldn't you have seen the light way before now?
Drop car off....promise completion time... weeks/months pass...no car/no progress/no communication....more time passes, more promises as to completion date....still no car/no progress/no communications?
How hard do you need to be hit?
Friends or otherwise, my first question is simple:
Why, after the first several months of no activity, no progress on the car and no communications, didn't you just go get your car?
Hell! A wrecker tow to another shop is cheaper than leaving the car abandoned and undriveable while you pay insurance don't you think?
If you have cancelled checks for the original work (performed or not) then there should be no justification for a mechanic's lien on the car, and no reason you couldn't just go get it back
If he's doing the work for
FREE as implied in Chris' statement above, then I can understand a bit more of a delay.
As a business owner, I have to place paying the bills ahead of the freebies (and I do a LOT of "freebies.")
Even with that, I can't let them wait forever. It's either get them done or tell them I can't handle them at the time being
But if it was going to be handled, then it needed to be either get it done, let me pay you to get it done (which your earlier post implied you did) or go retrieve yor car and go elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by Rich Z
Liz, I'm sorry but for someone who claims to have a law degree hanging on your wall, do you really think it is legally advisable to admit on a public forum that the purpose of your posting on this forum is to "screw" Chris?
Do you really think that post helps matters between you two, or is that not really your intent at all here?
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I partially disagree here. I don't think that was what Liz was saying.
While I wasn't all that impressed with the arrogant little gender bashing snip regarding the "fragile male ego"
I do have some thoughts on the overall statement.
First, I think the whole thing should have remained between the two of them and not on a privately owned yet public forum.
That said, and we're still not getting all of the story (and we may never), based on her post it seems possibly that this has been going on elsewhere for a while?
Her comment about being "screwed in front of her friends" make me wonder...how? Liz, could you or would you, elaborate?
If this was truly a private issue, please tell us "how" you were being "screwed in front of your friends"? (seriously please).
IMO, her comment was not so much an admission of "intent" as it was a commentary on how things (specifically responses), changed in her perception. Nothing wrong with that and certainly nothing that would cause her problems in civil court.
At least this has gone from an ambiguous bitch thread to more specifics. Now it actually belongs here and hopefully, all sides will be able to reach a reasonable and friendly solution.
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