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Unread 12-05-2008, 06:40 AM   #1
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Default Drill Sergeant Joe B. Fricks Rules For A Gunfight

I got this in an e-mail from a fellow Vietnam Vet, and thought that a bunch of you would enjoy it. May have already made the rounds, but what the heck.....it still makes sense!
I personaly like number 10!
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Drill Sergeant Joe B. Fricks Rules For A Gunfight
My memories of BCT at Ft. Benning | Drill Sgt (E-7) Joe B. Frick



RULES FOR A GUN, KNIFE, BASEBALL BAT OR FIST FIGHT

1. Forget about knives, bats and fists. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns. Bring four times the ammunition you think you could ever need.

2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammunition is cheap - life is expensive. If you shoot inside, buckshot is your friend. A new wall is cheap - funerals are expensive

3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss.

4. If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough or using cover correctly.

5. Move away from your attacker and go to cover. Distance is your friend. (Bulletproof cover and diagonal or lateral movement are preferred.)

6. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a semi or full-automatic long gun and a friend with a long gun.

7. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.

8. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading, and running. Yell "Fire!" Why "Fire"? Cops will come with the Fire Department, sirens often scare off the bad guys, or at least cause them to lose concentration and will.... and who is going to summon help if you yell "Intruder," "Glock" or "Winchester?"

9. Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the gun.

10. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

11. Always cheat, always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.

12. Have a plan.

13. Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work. "No battle plan ever survives 10 seconds past first contact with an enemy."

14. Use cover or concealment as much as possible, but remember, sheetrock walls and the like stop nothing but your pulse when bullets tear through them.

15. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.

16. Don't drop your guard.

17. Always tactical load and threat scan 360 degrees. Practice reloading one-handed and off-hand shooting. That's how you live if hit in your "good" side.

18. Watch their hands. Hands kill. Smiles, frowns and other facial expressions don't (In God we trust. Everyone else keep your hands where I can see them.)

19. Decide NOW to always be aggressive ENOUGH, quickly ENOUGH.

20. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

21. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet if necessary, because they may want to kill you.

22. Be courteous to everyone, overly friendly to no one.

23. Your number one option for personal security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

24. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun, the caliber of which does not start with anything smaller than "4".

25. Use a gun that works EVERY TIME. "All skill is in vain when an Angel blows the powder from the flintlock of your musket." At a practice session, throw you gun into the mud, then make sure it still works. You can clean it later.

26. Practice shooting in the dark, with someone shouting at you, when out of breath, etc.

27. Redardless of whether justified of not, you will feel sad about killing another human being. It is better to be sad than to be room temperature.

28. The only thing you EVER say afterwards is, "He said he was going to kill me. I believed him. I'm sorry, Officer, but I'm very upset now. I can't say anything more. Please speak with my attorney."


Finally, Drill Sergeant Frick's Rules For Un-armed Combat.


1: Never be unarmed.

2: If you have your hands, your feet, your mind and your Spirit as an American Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine or Coastie, you are never unarmed.
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Unread 12-05-2008, 08:20 AM   #2
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In the voice and spirit of Gunny "that was Outstanding!"

This was one of my favorites:

Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet if necessary, because they may want to kill you.

Several of these bring back major memories:

2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammunition is cheap - life is expensive. If you shoot inside, buckshot is your friend. A new wall is cheap - funerals are expensive.

3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss.

7. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.

12. Have a plan.

13. Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work. "No battle plan ever survives 10 seconds past first contact with an enemy."

15. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.

16. Don't drop your guard.

17. Always tactical load and threat scan 360 degrees. Practice reloading one-handed and off-hand shooting. That's how you live if hit in your "good" side.

18. Watch their hands. Hands kill. Smiles, frowns and other facial expressions don't (In God we trust. Everyone else keep your hands where I can see them.)

19. Decide NOW to always be aggressive ENOUGH, quickly ENOUGH.

20. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

22. Be courteous to everyone, overly friendly to no one.

23. Your number one option for personal security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

25. Use a gun that works EVERY TIME. "All skill is in vain when an Angel blows the powder from the flintlock of your musket." At a practice session, throw you gun into the mud, then make sure it still works. You can clean it later.

26. Practice shooting in the dark, with someone shouting at you, when out of breath, etc.

(It was hard to get the deparment on board, but finally we won!
This drill was brought to our department by some Vietnam VetsThanks guys, you probably saved more than a few lives)


27. Redardless of whether justified of not, you will feel sad about killing another human being. It is better to be sad than to be room temperature.

28. The only thing you EVER say afterwards is, "He said he was going to kill me. I believed him. I'm sorry, Officer, but I'm very upset now. I can't say anything more. Please speak with my attorney."

(I use a variation of this to this day in all my self defense classes!)


Finally, Drill Sergeant Frick's Rules For Un-armed Combat.

1: Never be unarmed.

2: If you have your hands, your feet, your mind and your Spirit as an American Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine or Coastie, you are never unarmed.[/quote]

I've always said (just ask my wife),
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I don't get paid to fight fair. I get paid to win!
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..she always knew that God willing and if Sig Sauer didn't object, I'd be home at the end of my shift. I might be suspended or unemployed, but I'd be home!

Semper Paratus drill...and thank you!..


And thank you for bringing back some fond memories

Oh, and here's one more for you from the late Edmund "Ed" Parker, founder of American Kenpo:

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He who hesitates, meditates in the horizontal position!
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Unread 12-05-2008, 08:38 AM   #3
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Awesome reading. Anybody want to fight!!!!
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Rich, after reading this, I need to pay a visit to your arsenal, my 22 pea shooter may be inadequate.
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Unread 12-05-2008, 10:23 AM   #5
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Had a copy of this in my desk for years and before that in my rolling office (ya know the one with the flashie lights on top).
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Good stuff!

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Rich, after reading this, I need to pay a visit to your arsenal, my 22 pea shooter may be inadequate.
Yeah... I'm not selling off EVERYTHING. I've got a lot of collectible stuff that I don't want to shoot because they are nearly irreplaceable. I'm still keeping enough that I will be VERY well armed, if the need arises. I just took stock and thought "Do I REALLY need THREE 50 caliber rifles?"

I had an interesting discussion the other day with a guy I sell animals to. He is a rabid anti-gunner, so we get into these discussions quite often. He was born and raised in England, so that probably explains a lot...

Anyway, he asked why anyone would need to have a gun when the legitimate chance to use it for self defense is so slim. I responded that so are insurance policies. Matter of fact, if you consider a gun as a life insurance policy that is only effective if it remains in reach at all times, perhaps it explains a lot of people's comfort level by owning guns and resenting efforts to have them taken away.
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...He is a rabid anti-gunner...
I don't even talk to them!
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This the first time that I have seen the paper from Gunny, it is words to live by. To all of us who have a ccw to all of the leo's it is a war outside and unless we are willing to use the firearm, we will loose the fight.

This a big Thank You to all law enforcement, and also to all of those who have serviced and are servicing this country.
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