• Got the Contributing Memberships stuff finally worked out and made up a thread as a sort of "How-To" to help people figure out how to participate. So if you need help figuring it out, here's the thread you need to take a look at -> http://www.corvetteflorida.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3581 Thank you, everyone! Rich Z.

New thread, for old road racing & old racer's

spiceman

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Have had some fun in here with the fella's remembering old days of race car's.
Thought maybe I'd try my luck with more pictures of the past cars, and driver's, and history of both.

Some great learning experiences herein, with some laugh's as well.
Example, our wonderful Corvette God Father Zora Arkus Duntov.
How many knew that Zora's telephone number was a listed phone number for every corvette owner to call him personally if they had a problem, or just to shoot the bull? He wanted to know when there was a problem, and if he could help a stranded owner, he would.
That at 5:00 PM sharp and I do mean sharp.....was cocktail DRY MARTINI time? Pull the Vette over at the nearest cocktail happy hour.
The death of him was his Lucky Strike Cigrettes.
He was an acomplished pilot, and owned to his end a beautiful Rockwell single engine airplane. and was determined to break Jimmy Dolittle's air speed record in a BGee' aircraft.
That Zora won the 24 hours of LeMans 1955.......but driving a Porsche! Nearly got fired by GM.

I receive daily email's from many corvette owner's of both new vette and older vettes....and as some have read herein, I have many old credit's to my
years with Corvette, Corvette engineering, Corvette racing, or just racing in itself.
I as example have personally owned some 34 Corvettes throughout my life time, and my brother Chris, most likely more than me. And naturally I always laugh when I see Barrett Jackson Auction, and think to myself.........OMG
all the Stingray's we owned and sold a few thousand :lmao:
As most all know, I had the honor to host the very first Corvette Grand Sport Reunion back in 1978. And anyone reading this part.......and NO Bill Tower had NOTHING, ZIP ZERO NADA to do with the Reunion other than being a ticket holder. The orginal engineers were all there, along with media and the GS's doing battle for the first time at Sebring Raceway. These cars at the time were believed tohave been destroyed and long gone history, until I personally tracked down and located all 5. (Talk about some racing stories from each and all owner's)
Because of that meeting Reunion of the Grand Sports, and the many media magizines coverage...the Grand Sports became to the public what they are today, NOT becuase of the Amelia Island concours show, a couple years ago.
I have a picture to share here in.
In this picture,the very men that gave Corvette life......... Do you know them.
Driver's at the Daytona 1963 Continental race 1. Then later, pictures not many have ever seen before that were recently sent to me from a fellow Corvette owner. Thank you Garrett .:wavey:
 

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Thanks Spice. I don't know who any of the guys are in the photo. I have also been wondering how you came up with the name Spice. I think there maybe a long story behind that and I would love to hear it.
 
The name Spice

Thanks Spice. I don't know who any of the guys are in the photo. I have also been wondering how you came up with the name Spice. I think there maybe a long story behind that and I would love to hear it.
Spice because of my involvement with the SPICE GTP USA program. The beautiful and with out a doubt........one of the fastest race cars to this day. 1500 pound 850 horse rocket's. Biggest problem then? keeping traction.
 

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Spice because of my involvement with the SPICE GTP USA program. The beautiful and with out a doubt........one of the fastest race cars to this day. 1500 pound 850 horse rocket's. Biggest problem then? keeping traction.

I can't imagine 850HP and 1500#. My Vette weighs 3500# with me in it and I'm very satisfied with the stock engine.

Just to sit in a car like that or maybe even a brief run around the track would be a dream. I always thanked God that I was able to work at a job I loved and I'm sure you must feel the same way. How fortunate we are. :thumbsup:
 
Bob, see the pic I posted with that Pontiac tempest (1963)

I can't imagine 850HP and 1500#. My Vette weighs 3500# with me in it and I'm very satisfied with the stock engine.

Just to sit in a car like that or maybe even a brief run around the track would be a dream. I always thanked God that I was able to work at a job I loved and I'm sure you must feel the same way. How fortunate we are. :thumbsup:

That little tempest beat the pants off everyone at Daytona. Had a factory 421 Cu in engine, the car had to weigh in at around 2400 pounds. Thats with a cast 421 block, and damn old heavy cast iron headers.......what a fantastic drag car it would have made. especially in pure stock class.
And to see that many Corvettes. Z06 Corvettes no less racing daytona all at once, has to be to this day a record amount of Corvettes in one race. Hell there were only 112 I believe to begin with compared to today's Z06 in the thousands and yet we see only a very few race.
Interesting isn't it?
 
more pic's of the 1963 Daytona Continental

That little tempest beat the pants off everyone at Daytona. Had a factory 421 Cu in engine, the car had to weigh in at around 2400 pounds. Thats with a cast 421 block, and damn old heavy cast iron headers.......what a fantastic drag car it would have made. especially in pure stock class.
And to see that many Corvettes. Z06 Corvettes no less racing daytona all at once, has to be to this day a record amount of Corvettes in one race. Hell there were only 112 I believe to begin with compared to today's Z06 in the thousands and yet we see only a very few race.
Interesting isn't it?

Oh yes, the wrecked vette, that's my car too. Ya, Tom Rizzo took one hell of a barrell roll fliping about 6 times thank God he was ok, the Z06 totally destroyed.
:NoNo::NoNo::toetap05:
 

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That little tempest beat the pants off everyone at Daytona. Had a factory 421 Cu in engine, the car had to weigh in at around 2400 pounds. Thats with a cast 421 block, and damn old heavy cast iron headers.......what a fantastic drag car it would have made. especially in pure stock class.
And to see that many Corvettes. Z06 Corvettes no less racing daytona all at once, has to be to this day a record amount of Corvettes in one race. Hell there were only 112 I believe to begin with compared to today's Z06 in the thousands and yet we see only a very few race.
Interesting isn't it?

The Tempest won many drag events. Arnie is one of the greats.
 

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Thanks again Bob, man love that torque for sure. Man that engine wanted to twist the Tempest into a pretsol didn't it. LOL
Thanks again for the pic's and introduction to Tempest drag 101.
Spice
 
Thanks again Bob, man love that torque for sure. Man that engine wanted to twist the Tempest into a pretsol didn't it. LOL
Thanks again for the pic's and introduction to Tempest drag 101.
Spice

You're welcome Spice. I wish we could take a trip back. Like I said before, no million dollar rigs and budgets to go with it. These guys made a good living and it was so much simpler back then.

That track at Avilla is now a bunch of homes. US131 is a great track and my first drag race was there. It used to be call Martin and could not be compared to what it is today. I miss the old one and the guys. Arnie, Ronnie Sox, Ramchargers and Dyno Don. All of the greats were there. Sorry for the ramblings.

What was it like for you back in the day?
 
No differnt Bob.
Cicero raceway, (drag strip just north of Syracuse, NY.
Like you said, a housing developement now.
The renound Riverside Raceway, gone to developers for housing.
Can't live the past, but sure is fun finding something GOOD and Clean to look back on isn't it.
Like I told Bo Laws back in December.......man you sure got gray Bo, and he replied......yeah, I remember you 30 pounds lighter and with hair. LOL
 
Hair? I haven't had hair for so long I can't remember. I had to crawl under the motor home today and run some wires. I probably won't be able to walk tomorrow.:ack2:
 
the boyz in the picture above,

Have had some fun in here with the fella's remembering old days of race car's.
Thought maybe I'd try my luck with more pictures of the past cars, and driver's, and history of both.

Some great learning experiences herein, with some laugh's as well.
Example, our wonderful Corvette God Father Zora Arkus Duntov.
How many knew that Zora's telephone number was a listed phone number for every corvette owner to call him personally if they had a problem, or just to shoot the bull? He wanted to know when there was a problem, and if he could help a stranded owner, he would.
That at 5:00 PM sharp and I do mean sharp.....was cocktail DRY MARTINI time? Pull the Vette over at the nearest cocktail happy hour.
The death of him was his Lucky Strike Cigrettes.
He was an acomplished pilot, and owned to his end a beautiful Rockwell single engine airplane. and was determined to break Jimmy Dolittle's air speed record in a BGee' aircraft.
That Zora won the 24 hours of LeMans 1955.......but driving a Porsche! Nearly got fired by GM.

I receive daily email's from many corvette owner's of both new vette and older vettes....and as some have read herein, I have many old credit's to my
years with Corvette, Corvette engineering, Corvette racing, or just racing in itself.
I as example have personally owned some 34 Corvettes throughout my life time, and my brother Chris, most likely more than me. And naturally I always laugh when I see Barrett Jackson Auction, and think to myself.........OMG
all the Stingray's we owned and sold a few thousand :lmao:
As most all know, I had the honor to host the very first Corvette Grand Sport Reunion back in 1978. And anyone reading this part.......and NO Bill Tower had NOTHING, ZIP ZERO NADA to do with the Reunion other than being a ticket holder. The orginal engineers were all there, along with media and the GS's doing battle for the first time at Sebring Raceway. These cars at the time were believed tohave been destroyed and long gone history, until I personally tracked down and located all 5. (Talk about some racing stories from each and all owner's)
Because of that meeting Reunion of the Grand Sports, and the many media magizines coverage...the Grand Sports became to the public what they are today, NOT becuase of the Amelia Island concours show, a couple years ago.
I have a picture to share here in.
In this picture,the very men that gave Corvette life......... Do you know them.
Driver's at the Daytona 1963 Continental race 1. Then later, pictures not many have ever seen before that were recently sent to me from a fellow Corvette owner. Thank you Garrett .:wavey:

Thats Billy Krause drivng Mickey Thompsons 427 mystry engine Corvette #3
alond side the Tempest of Paul Goldberg, #17 AJ Foyt Corvette, and Bobby Brown Corvette # 6
 
Spice, I treid to Google Paul Goldberg and came up empty, I wanted to see what info I could get on the Tempest. I know they used to under rate engines, sometimes quite a bit. Hard to imagine a Tempest hanging with the Vettes.
 
Little more action by the boyz in the picture

The white Z06 what my car looked before the wreck.
The beautiful Wine Red #9 the beautiful Vette that gave my Vette the Dale Earnhardt bumper to the left rear quarter trick.
The Cobra killer #85 of Dick Lang , Lang Chevrolet, Ohio
My Golden Goose 1966 Nassau Bahama'sGovernors tropny winner and FTD
with 396 BB and 4 -2 barrell Stromberg cars. What a screamer. Blew the doors off Penske's vettes, set 6 records at Lime Rock Kend DuClous driving.
 

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The white Z06 what my car looked before the wreck.
The beautiful Wine Red #9 the beautiful Vette that gave my Vette the Dale Earnhardt bumper to the left rear quarter trick.
The Cobra killer #85 of Dick Lang , Lang Chevrolet, Ohio
My Golden Goose 1966 Nassau Bahama'sGovernors tropny winner and FTD
with 396 BB and 4 -2 barrell Stromberg cars. What a screamer. Blew the doors off Penske's vettes, set 6 records at Lime Rock Kend DuClous driving.

What's with the 9 decal? Unprofessional is the term I would use and it must pain you to see photos of your Z06. Even with your ability you say it was not repairable.

More memories Spice. I had completely forgotten about Stromberg carbs, I know they were in business in the 50's and I just checked and I see they still are. It's funny that back in the day a hot rod was almost required to have these carbs on a flat head V8 yet today in the drag racing world I never hear about them.
 
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