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The Danger to America

thebeepster

truth seeker
Wow! I just had to share this. Some unknown individual has majestically put into words what I've felt all along...this applies to the entire ship of fools we have running Congress as well:

"The danger to America is NOT Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president.

"The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symtom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

"The republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."

--Author Unknown
 
Well, the problem with a democracy is that if the majority of the population are fools, then the country will be forced to do foolish things. Which is why the founders of this country wanted the USA to be a Constitutional Republic instead. The idea was that the Constitution would help protect the country from itself if such a state of affairs should develop. Unfortunately, I believe they wildly underestimated with breadth and depth of fools that the future would bring. I believe they did rightfully assume the danger of the country being taken over by unscrupulous and deceitful people, however, which is why the right to bear arms was so high on the list on the Bill of Rights. But even then, when you have a country composed of such a high proportion of fools being run by a cabal of opportunists and self interested parties, the trap we are in will not easily be escaped.
 
Sounds reasonable to me.:shrug01: We listen to these people. We believe their rhetoric. We vote them into office. Then, when it turns out they're not doing what we want, we blame everyone except ourselves. Foolish indeed. The problem is, we're only human, just like the folks we elect. We can't possibly know what a person is going to do until they get in office. Then it's too late, at least for 4 years. How do you ensure the person you elected is going to do what's right for the country? If you figure that one out, please let me know.:yesnod:
 
Perhaps there needs to be a Constitutional amendment that holds those representatives accountable for the promises they make while running for office. Basically it's a CONTRACT with the American people. With suitable penalties and even criminal sanctions. Heck, I would like to see something even as simple as a prohibition against LYING in public office, no matter what the reason. Simply saying that "national security" is a sufficient defense against bald faced lying is just not enough.

It's actually frightening and highly disappointing that lying is considered normal for politicians and accepted as the status quo in Washington D.C. What kind of BS is that? If those people are not believable, what the hell are they doing acting as representatives of US and this country?
 
Yeah, perhaps a "BREACH OF CONTRACT" clause when they take the oath of office? Sorry bud, you lied, you're gone. :hehehe: Integrity and accountability are 2 things sadly lacking in our society as a whole these days.:nonod:
 
I was in the minority too...but just think...would McCain/Palin be doing any better at this point?
I have given it a lot of thought and my best answer is some what .Jobs ,taxes and debt are the big issues .Health care needs to be reformed but at this time it shouldn't be on the front hot burner .I think that McCain might have addressed issues in a different priority .
 
I was in the minority too...but just think...would McCain/Palin be doing any better at this point?

I would have liked to have found out. Some of this mess was going to happen no matter who is in office but Obama has fanned the flames to disastrous levels.
 
Honestly, we had NO good choices at the polls. And until we do, things aren't likely to change much.
 
Heck, I would like to see something even as simple as a prohibition against LYING in public office, no matter what the reason. Simply saying that "national security" is a sufficient defense against bald faced lying is just not enough.

Exactly. But then they'd suddenly realize that they are under no binding contract to answer any questions at all.

As for lying in office, that's what impeachment is for. But the people who hold the power to impeach are, well... uh... "that crowd".
 
Well, the problem with a democracy is that if the majority of the population are fools, then the country will be forced to do foolish things. Which is why the founders of this country wanted the USA to be a Constitutional Republic instead. The idea was that the Constitution would help protect the country from itself if such a state of affairs should develop. Unfortunately, I believe they wildly underestimated with breadth and depth of fools that the future would bring. I believe they did rightfully assume the danger of the country being taken over by unscrupulous and deceitful people, however, which is why the right to bear arms was so high on the list on the Bill of Rights. But even then, when you have a country composed of such a high proportion of fools being run by a cabal of opportunists and self interested parties, the trap we are in will not easily be escaped.


Maybe if the Constitution wasn't changed to allow voting for non property owners we might be in better shape. It's almost like they knew we would eventually have a federal income tax.



I was in the minority too...but just think...would McCain/Palin be doing any better at this point?

Maybe only slightly better for the country but disastrous for him and the Pub club.

The Dem congress would still not have confirmed any of his cabinet appointees or Supreme Court nominee. The economy might have been a little better assuming McCain didn’t threaten higher tax burdens from out of control borrowing and spending but he probably would have because that would be the only thing he could get passed. I really don’t see that McCain would have been able to get anything done with a totally pissed off Dem Congress. I think Congress would be calling the shots (not much different than today) and blaming him for all it’s failures.

The Dems would be constantly pounding away at how bad things are and how much worse they are going to become. By now, all our problems we have today would be because of McCain following the same failed ideas of Bush. We would have been constantly been told by the MSM that if the American people would have been smart enough to elect the Messiah, we would all be enjoying a carefree life in a transformed world of peace and prosperity by now.

McCain’s presidency would have been dead in the water from election day and would have been remembered in history as one of the worst this country has ever seen. As much as I don’t agree with his liberal politics, as a military hero he doesn’t deserve to be remembered that way.
 
Exactly. But then they'd suddenly realize that they are under no binding contract to answer any questions at all.

As for lying in office, that's what impeachment is for. But the people who hold the power to impeach are, well... uh... "that crowd".

Exactly.
 
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