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Got the Contributing Memberships stuff finally worked out and made up a thread as a sort of "How-To" to help people figure out how to participate. So if you need help figuring it out, here's the thread you need to take a look at -> http://www.corvetteflorida.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3581 Thank you, everyone! Rich Z.
Florida Shoot Out
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Florida Shootout
AlS2052,
Is this legitimate ? Heck YES it is ! 100% ! It will start out in Sarasota area here, Hoosier Bar/ Lounge. You have to be crazy not to want to get into this!
Can you handle the truth?? I don't hink so but here it is anyway and since you kind of were speaking for many this goes out to those you spoke for as well.
Sorry to hear that the $100.00 entry for each person is too costly for any of you for an attempt at $25,000 with the chances being better than anything you have ever seen before.
I own an 04 vette and my wife will be entered in this with it, she most likely will put a lot of men to shame. You must not drive a corvette or just cover it up in the garage as too many vette owners do and never do more than look at it to enjoy the ride, I drive mine!
Seeing that anything that you buy for a vette even an oil change is at least $100.00, well maybe the oil change is only $75 bucks. Live it up for once, splurge for a change, let the moths out of the wallet.
You're right it's going to be a blast no matter what happens there and with the types of cars entering... shoot it's going to be better than any car show thats ever been around with some of these entering, it's unreal and passed even my expectations. Sorry we won't see as many corvettes there as at least I would like to see.
There seems to be something wrong with the majority of all Corvette owners, (you should see the old duffs in the Venicve club, what a joke they are !! They do not do these things they said) they buy the car and are afraid to ever drive it. If you can't run with the Big Dogs you all need to stay on the porch. Why the heck did anyone ever buy a performance car when they don't know what to do with it or how to enjoy it ? Show it off when it counts.
Ow well to each their own. Sorry the $100 bucks was out of line with your budget, maybe we will do this again another time with a $10.00 entry and the chance to win $25,000. Yeah right good luck with that happening. Hey sorry if I ruffeled your feathers no harm no foul. Good luck to you anyway in the future, It's going to be the car show of the year and an "road run" to beat them all.... We are in it to win!!
AlS2052,
Is this legitimate ? Heck YES it is ! 100% ! It will start out in Sarasota area here, Hoosier Bar/ Lounge. You have to be crazy not to want to get into this!
Can you handle the truth?? I don't hink so but here it is anyway and since you kind of were speaking for many this goes out to those you spoke for as well.
Sorry to hear that the $100.00 entry for each person is too costly for any of you for an attempt at $25,000 with the chances being better than anything you have ever seen before.
I own an 04 vette and my wife will be entered in this with it, she most likely will put a lot of men to shame. You must not drive a corvette or just cover it up in the garage as too many vette owners do and never do more than look at it to enjoy the ride, I drive mine!
Seeing that anything that you buy for a vette even an oil change is at least $100.00, well maybe the oil change is only $75 bucks. Live it up for once, splurge for a change, let the moths out of the wallet.
You're right it's going to be a blast no matter what happens there and with the types of cars entering... shoot it's going to be better than any car show thats ever been around with some of these entering, it's unreal and passed even my expectations. Sorry we won't see as many corvettes there as at least I would like to see.
There seems to be something wrong with the majority of all Corvette owners, (you should see the old duffs in the Venicve club, what a joke they are !! They do not do these things they said) they buy the car and are afraid to ever drive it. If you can't run with the Big Dogs you all need to stay on the porch. Why the heck did anyone ever buy a performance car when they don't know what to do with it or how to enjoy it ? Show it off when it counts.
Ow well to each their own. Sorry the $100 bucks was out of line with your budget, maybe we will do this again another time with a $10.00 entry and the chance to win $25,000. Yeah right good luck with that happening. Hey sorry if I ruffeled your feathers no harm no foul. Good luck to you anyway in the future, It's going to be the car show of the year and an "road run" to beat them all.... We are in it to win!!
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Valid point .:yesnod:
Shadow
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You make soem good points, but chill out bro
ALS had a legitimate question and made a valid comment/observation.
Times are tough. Even within the Vette owner community, many people are cutting back. Chit happens.
I'm sure there will be a heck of a turnout though and it does sound like a good time:thumbsup:
But jumping down the throat of a member, belittling large groups of corvette owners, simply because they choose another passion with thier cars that you, then losing your cool over a simple question, isn't going to help your cause:NoNo:
I'd like to see your event be successful:thumbsup::thumbsup:
You're new here and we'd love to have you hang around our little dysfunctional family; however, you're 2nd post here wasn't all that cool:thumbsdown:
Maybe a different approach to the answer?
Thanks and oh yeah...:welcome::wavey:
oldvetter
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I'm an "Old Duff" and I've run with bigger dogs than you will ever meet, but I think I will sit this one out. Poor attitudes such as yours and good times just don't go together.
als2052
Road Trip!
Maybe the use of the word, "legitimate" was too much for him to deal with but given all the scams that are abound in this area and never having heard of this event before in the 5 years that I have been on this forum, I was compelled to say something...Lets see, they are looking for 500 entries @ $100 a piece equals $50K with just under $30K in prize money that leaves a tad over $20K for their expenses and salaries for a couple of days work yet nothing for charity if memory serves me right...He was a bit critical of his Corvette brethren but its a free country last time I looked and he can say what he wants as I am now...And last but not least, theres no reason a similar event could not be held with a lower entry fee and prize structure, after all we are doing this for the fun of it and a charity...
oldvetter
New member
I agree, and along with a lower entry fee and different prize structure, presenting the event with a good attitude would go a long way in promoting the event.
Since I began Vetting in 1961, I have always considered it a brotherhood of sorts. There will always be people we don't like or agree with for one reason or another, but age, race or sex should not be a reason to diss other Corvette owners.
Florida Shootout
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SO much negativity, and as mentioned didn’t mean to ruffle feathers but we obviously did as we suspected we would. Guess we shaming you into taking out your car and driving your car in the event instead of just waxing it didn’t do it. But the rest that was said we did mean; that so many buy these nice performance cars then don’t drive them. Your kids will appreciate them when you pass away and they get them to drive. You can’t take them with you ya know.
As for all the math you did, very astute of you but this goes to many people and not just one charity, we see that the people aren’t scamming as you so nicely put it, just to get something for free.
Yes it is for the fun of it with the benefit of possibly getting a few good bucks at the end of the road which isn’t too shabby. Charity or not in any case it is worth the effort for the benefit.
So once again our apologies to those who did get their feathers ruffled, just wanted to wake you up to drive your cars and not just sit and way them all the time. For the few that did not care for the comment, our apologies. For all those that emailed us agreeing but didn’t want to post it and then signed up, we thank you and wish you the best in the event. It’s all in the marketing people, even getting a rise out of folks is marketing and getting people to mention it to others.
Thanks again everyone.
Florida Shootout
As for all the math you did, very astute of you but this goes to many people and not just one charity, we see that the people aren’t scamming as you so nicely put it, just to get something for free.
Yes it is for the fun of it with the benefit of possibly getting a few good bucks at the end of the road which isn’t too shabby. Charity or not in any case it is worth the effort for the benefit.
So once again our apologies to those who did get their feathers ruffled, just wanted to wake you up to drive your cars and not just sit and way them all the time. For the few that did not care for the comment, our apologies. For all those that emailed us agreeing but didn’t want to post it and then signed up, we thank you and wish you the best in the event. It’s all in the marketing people, even getting a rise out of folks is marketing and getting people to mention it to others.
Thanks again everyone.
Florida Shootout
Seems to me that YOU have the highest quotient of NEGATIVITY in this thread.
Eh? You didn't MEAN to ruffle feathers yet you suspected that you would? :crazy03:
Sure, just go ahead and piss off the very people you are trying to solicit for your event.
So? If someone can afford to buy one or more Corvettes and enjoys just collecting them and having them, so what? To each their own here. To belittle someone because their passion is not your passion just is not a very smart marketing strategy when you want people to hand over money to you for YOUR passion.
People do have a right to question the authenticity of a solicitation for money, I believe.
Me thinks you quite likely also lost some potential participants when you decided to backhand slap many of them with your retort. And regardless of your "disclaimer" on your site, it is my opinion that yes, you ARE trying to make some sort of Cannonball Run here in Florida. What you are setting up will ENCOURAGE participants to exceed the speed limit and possibly drive recklessly in the pursuit of the prize money.
Quite frankly, I read your rules and RULE #4 got me to lose my interest in your event completely.
A LOT of people have concealed weapons permits within Florida, and do so for a very valid reason. I certainly am not going to give up that right to carry a firearm for my protection simply to participate in your Cannonball Run. I just will not have some event coordinator TELL me what I can and cannot have on my person or in my vehicle that is otherwise LEGAL to do so.
But good luck to you and your event.
Shadow
New member
"Ruffle feathers"?
Bet your ass you did
but not for the reason you think.It's your approach, commentary and attitude that I'm personally opposed to.
I'm speaking as a member here not a moderator when I say this:
1) IMO-If you want to be taken seriously, you may want to try SPELL CHECK & GRAMMAR CHECK when you're posting.:thumbsup:
2) If you want people to want to come to your event, you may want to be less aggressive or abrupt in your attidtude toward them:nonod:
Your continued characterization of our membership (and vette owners in genreral) as old waxers that never drive thier cars is offensive and off base.
I know that's the "general" concensus, and I've even used that generalization before. But not when trying to win friends and influence people:lmao:
I'e used it (because it's generally considered) when discussing the next generation of corvette owner and styling.
But never to try and motivate people to attend an event.
I doubt you've met many if any of our members. If you had, you'd realize just how off base you really are:dancer01:
Most of the ones I've met over the years here, not only SHOW thier cars, but will likely SHINE your ass on the "track" as well!
when I had my 87, I drove it like I stole it! It wasn't all that fast, but I drove it like it was
That's one of the reasons they were built isn't it?
We have our share of shiners for sure. Every group does.
But we also have a fair share of racers and performance tuners (RevXtreme, AntiVenom, and some others that I'm sure I've missed)
I've been around cars and shows more than I car to think over my 53 years on earth.
I've been around the exotics, the performance rods and customs, the vettes, vipers, and hot rods.
They all have thier differences when it comes to what they do with thier rides.
To categorize one group simply because of your personal bias just doesn't cut it with me.
"Negativity?"
I didn't see any at first.
One of the members asked a simple, fair and legitimate question, and you became defensive. You began belittling the ownership class as a whole, and copped an attitude
Most groups that I've known that are organizing an event as large as this is supposed to be, have professional PR types that handle these kinds of questions. For the organizers, due to the amount of work, stress and $$ they sometimes have tied up in an event, the question can be see as an attack on thier event. This would understandably lead to a defensive posture.
A professional, possibly even detached, Public Relations person, would be able to handle that more eloquently, give the answers people seek and make the event more enticing to attend:thumbsup:
Just like a local car show, when the organizer said "the newer vettes weren't welcomed":nonod:
That goofy move dinged his attendance for quite a while.
The $$$/charity issue is also a valid point.
I contribute to St. Judes, Wounded Warriors, Breast Cancer organizations, and a host of other charities that are near and dear to me. But before I gave a dime to the first one, I checked it out!
We call it "DUE DILIGENCE."
At the end of the year, when the Gestapo wants your hard earned income (tax), and you want to claim the deduction, you BETTER have done your due diligence or all those donations just went out the window!
For someone to ask about the charity aspect of the event is not all that unusual. As a matter of fact, I will attend an event sometimes BECAUSE OF THE CHARITY, even if I don't have an entry.
I'll pay to show up and look, just to benefit the cause. There are a LOT of people in the Corvette community that give till it hurts. Some are scraping by and others can afford it. Regardless, this is one community that puts its money where it's mouth is regularly. One that is always ready to help out, lend a hand or support a cause.
Overall, they're a very philanthropic group of people:thumbsup:
So, which charities will this ultimately benefit if I may ask? Are you guys a registered 501 w/the IRS?
There's no need for an apology. Let's just try to move forward from here:thumbsup:
That's just rediculous.
You haven't been here that long or posted that much, and it's obvious to me that you don't understand what makes this little group different from the big, national forums.
Here, we're not censored. We're able to speak our minds. Unlike some of the major sites, we're not overmoderated and restructed.
As you can see, even the mods get into the fray:dancer01:
We hash things out, make our opinions known, and speak our minds.
If this had been a thread on why GM can't sell more vettes or what we need for the future of GM's Corvette sales (see related thread via search), you'd find comments similar to yours, regarding stereotypes, driving ability, and use, made by several people including myself!!
And you'd see the alternative viewpoint as well.
There's nothing to fear here, it's just an OPINION.
What you won't find (very long anyway) is a member berating or belittleing another member or group of members, simply because of the way they choose to use thier cars.
We tend to keep it respectful here.:thumbsup:
Anyone that emailed you agreeing with your gross generalization of vette owners, but was "afraid to post it here"
has either not been here long enough to really understand our open attitude, or has been pistol whipped somewhere else and is still a little gun shy.There's no reason to be. That's just not the way we are:thumbsup:
It's been said, mostly as it pertains to Hollywood and Politicians (there's some coorelation there somewhere?), that any exposure is good exposure. And there's some truth to that.
I'm a business person and have been for a number of years. If all others here when they hear your name (event) mentioned is negativity, then don't bet on a huge turnout or a lot of business.
I've seen events destroyed because of negativity and in some cases, childish bickering and back stabbing between groups.
You don't need that.
Frankly, as both a moderator and an individual, I hope this event goes off big time and becomes an annual event, raising a ton of $$$$ for various charities.:dancer01:
I also hope you can cover your expenses and make a few bucks too (got to be careful if your a 501 though).
And finally, I hope you decide to stick around and continue to post up events and join in on the chatter around our house:yesnod::thumbsup:
Take care,
G
Shadow
New member
Guess I'm going to have to go back and read rule #4?
Well said Rich. Hadn't read this before I posted, but WTH?
A couple of things the organizers may want to consider:
1) Law enforcement (both owners and non) read these sites. They get wind of these things.
2) If our organizing and promoting what Rich said earlier, and God forbid, some innicent citizen gets injured or killed as a result of someone's quest fo the cash, you're fawed!
If they're or event the participant for that matter, are killed in the ensuing crash, you may find yourself charged as an accessory after.
And even if no one is killed, if there are injuries you may still find your self on the smelly end of a lawsuit
Even with waivers you're not safe. You can't "waive" negligence. If the event is promoted in such a way as to lead the entrants to believe or entice them, to comit a criminal or illegal act, you may still find yourself liable for damages.
Just tossing those things out there for your edification:thumbsup:
I wonder if they meant "illegal" weapons? At least that was my initial take on the comment.
Re-reading it though, I see what you mean.
How about a clarification from the sponsors please:thumbsup:
If not, then I'm with you 100%
Although a business has the right ot restrict weapons on thier property, I'm not sure how that extends to an event not held in one place and taking place for the most part, on a public road?
But I'm not giving up my right to carry, just to drive
G