Casey Jones you better watch your speed

[Daytona-Flyer]

The Florida House yesterday, 4/25/08, passed a bill to increase the fines for motorists who exceed 50 mph above the limit.

First-time offence = $1,000 fine. :shrug01:

Second offence = $2,500 fine and a one year license suspension.

Third offence = $5,000 fine and license suspended for 10 years.

No jail time except for possibly the third offence as was proposed in the first draft of the bill. :dancer01:

Remember, it still has to go through the senate and then to gov.


Here's the bill from the Florida house as of yesterday, 4/25/08

http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Documents/loaddoc.aspx?FileName=_h0137c1.xml&DocumentType=Bill&BillNumber=0137&Session=2008

Eric

 

[Z06 Rocket]

What total BS......... :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

 

[Eddies Vette]

What total BS............ :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

For Sure

 

[85vette]

I think I can keep mine under 85 mph in a 35 mph zone, but I'm not sure if I can keep the front wheels on the ground at all times.....:shrug01:

 

[jetmech09]

That stinks!!!! better get a radar detector

 

[THOR]

I can see the Val1 detector sales going through the roof now!!! I'm glad I got mine already. I wouldn't dare do this excesss speed in town or city limits. Country roads.... Hmmm- Take a guess.

 

[LS2POWA]

I wonder what i would have gotten when i was doin 162 on county road or state road 37 out in mine country coming back from polk county lol, think the speed limit out there is 65.

I just couldnt resist not opening her up cause i knew that stretch of road had zero side streets and you can see for miles down the road.

guess i wont be trying to top out again if this bill is passed, and most likely it will get shot down. cause i can see the politicians who love to drink and drive think about them getting slammed with their own bill signing.

 

[jetmech09]

I hope so

 

[Shadow]

and most likely it will get shot down. cause i can see the politicians who love to drink and drive think about them getting slammed with their own bill signing

Don't give the politicians that much credit. They're not that smart:NoNo:

The DUI laws are there but they still get snagged from time to time.

The bigger problem with the politicians is they seem to be exempt from arrest and prosecution. I know thats a generalization and certainly far from true, but I think you get my drift.

If you want to stop this bill, you need to get on the horn, the e-mail. the letter writing campaing, and let them know how you feel about it's legitimacy and effectiveness. Stay professional and on point. Advise them of your dislike, discontent, and displeasure of the proposal. Remind them of your voting status.

IMO, 50 over any speed limit is crazy. Not unrealistic, just crazy on a public road, but thats just my opinion.

70 in a 20, 85 in a 35...none of this is reasonable to me. But the fines are stupid. All it will do IMO is pormote fleeing and attempting to elude

As I've said before, and keep it in mind for the future, as tax caps get more stringent, government entities are held to a stricter budget (wow!- no more gimme-gimme-gimmie), you're going to see more and more of this kind of government "regulation" to increase the coffers. The regs will be in the interest of "homeland security" or "public safety.":thumbsdown:

There are better ways, but we're beating a dead horse on the matter.

 

[Daytona-Flyer]

If you want to stop this bill, you need to get on the horn,

It's already through the house so write your state senator today! Every letter they get represents thousands who share your view but don't write. An email or phone call works too. Don't fax them as it wastes their fax paper (as if they care about waste).

Sorry but I can't as of yet find the senate bill number. You can refer to the senate companion bill to HB 137.

Here is the directory......
http://www.flsenate.gov/Legislators/index.cfm?Mode=Find%20Your%20Legislators&Submenu=3&Tab=Legislators&CFID=81227956&CFTOKEN=13075141


BTW, the first draft of the bill included 5-10 years in the poke for the first offense. Child molesters don't serve that.

 

[85vette]

It's already through the house so write your state senator today! Every letter they get represents thousands who share your view but don't write. An email or phone call works too. Don't fax them as it wastes their fax paper (as if they care about waste).

Sorry but I can't as of yet find the senate bill number. You can refer to the senate companion bill to HB 137.

Here is the directory......
http://www.flsenate.gov/Legislators/index.cfm?Mode=Find%20Your%20Legislators&Submenu=3&Tab=Legislators&CFID=81227956&CFTOKEN=13075141




BTW, the first draft of the bill included 5-10 years in the poke for the first offense. Child molesters don't serve that.

Make sure you tell them all the legitimate reasons of why you need to drive 120 mph or more on the interstate highway.....

Crotch Rocket

 

[Shadow]

Make sure you tell them all the legitimate reasons of why you need to drive 120 mph or more on the interstate highway.....

Crotch Rocket

Don't get me wrong. As I've said before, 50 over ANY speed on a public highway is absurd; however, we have more than sufficient recourse with the current statutes. This is just about mo' money, mo' money, mo' money:thumbsdown:

It's not going to stop reckless driving or excessive speed any more than the current laws. It's simply going to give those so inclined, another reason to run

You can't legislate common sense and you can't stop stupid:lmao:

Besides, Stupid can and does happen just as easily at 70 (legal interstate speed) and 30 (average in town speed)

Don't have the pics but I've worked the crashes:nonod:

 

[Shadow]

Crotch Rocket

Interestingly enough, that pics assumes the truck was stopped on the side of the road and the vette planted itself underneat the DOT bar (aka: headache bar)? Any info on that one?

If the vette had been doing 120 upon impact, it would have been implanted much further under the truck. Doesn't appear to have even hit the 1st set of tandems yet?


The crotch rocket pic...what can you say.....Darwin wins again.....

 

[Daytona-Flyer]

Don't take this lightly!

There is another bill in the Senate that will make any exhibition of speed an offense. This includes chirping your tires while shifting gears or using excessive acceleration. :NoNo:

This is very small part of a large transportation bill.

Eric

 

[Shadow]

Don't take this lightly!

There is another bill in the Senate that will make any exhibition of speed an offense. This includes chirping your tires while shifting gears or using excessive acceleration. :NoNo:

This is very small part of a large transportation bill.

Eric

Therein lies the problem. Too many wanna be do-gooders trying to micro manage the population

FYI, most exhibitions of speed are already a violation of one or more of Florida's motor vehicle traffic laws. But to criminalize them is asking for trouble within an already overburdened legal system.

People really need to pay attention to thier lawmakers. Remember, they're really not looking after "our" good. They're generally looking after thier "own" good by cowtowing to the PAC's, big $$ groups and those groups that make enough noise to get them voted out of office.

I have no problem with traffic laws. Enforced them all my life. Good laws are reasonable laws.

Laws that allow too much interpretation by law enforcement or by thier very nature become "catch all" laws, are not "good" laws:thumbsdown:

ie:
Careless driving. Easily interpreted and applied to almost any situation with a little creative writing.

Racing on highways: again, doesn't need 2 cars to make this happen and with the wrong officer, wrong place, or a little creative writing, it's allover.

These laws are being brought about due to the improper actions of a few. The wheeling bikers, the crotch rocket racers, and the occasional street racer that kills himself or someone else.

I happen to agree with the OP on this matter. Lets make sure our lawmakers keep the laws reasonable and on point thats all:thumbsup:

 

[LS2POWA]

I agree with you Gordon on if these pass its gonna make people just wanna run. A chance of getting away to some people is ten gajillion times better then paying 1k bucks for a one 400-500$ dollar ticket. Hell when i got nailed in tampa by the new causeway construction by airport..didnt realize the speed limit went from 65-55-50 in 500yds distance. Got pulled doing 75 in a 50 an received a 248$ ticket.

Id love to see the bill they propose when cops now do nothing but high speed chase downs.

If someone is fined x amount of money + jail time for speeding definitely another reason to move out of state after college.

 

[98 softtail]

There is another house bill that was passed recently, SB828(i think), that provides for the confiscation of your motorcycle and arrest if any of these offences occurs;

riding with only one hand on the handlebars

standing up on the footpegs while riding

accellerating so as to lift the front wheel off the ground

braking so as to lift the rear wheel off the ground

speeding in excess of 30mph over the posted speed limit,

There are a few more but all of these actions can result in a reckless driving citation which requires confiscation of the motorcycle and arrest and jail time.

As a biker I hate this. There are so many reasons why this bill should not pass on common sense alone but when you think that a law that includes confiscation of your property for as minor an infraction as riding one handed or standing up on your pegs...

HOLY CRAP. When does the law expand to include cars?

Joe B.

 

[LS2POWA]

Isnt there a law right now, about no cell phones? If so i see how well that one is enforced.

 

[Shadow]

Confiscating one's property for what should be minor traffic violations seems to subvert the constitutional provisions of ulawful seizure? I have heard about the bill you wrote of, but haven't seen anything in writing on it recently.

I understand the stunt riding provisions, but riding with 1 hand? Please! I used to ride with one hand just to rest the other on long trips. Geez!
Again another example of a law that's too broad and easily abused

Lets hope it doesn't pass.

Quit mother henning us to death!:thumbsdown:

 

[Daytona-Flyer]

There is another house bill that was passed recently, SB828(i think), that provides for the confiscation of your motorcycle and arrest if any of these offences occurs;
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HOLY CRAP. When does the law expand to include cars?

Joe B.

Click on the link in my first post, the start of this thread. It's HB 137. As far as I know ther not a senate version as of yet.

As amended, the speed is now 50 over the limit now. As I remember, the rest you spoke about is intact. Who to thank? ABATE of Florida? No, not really. They just fought the first version of the bill that was for motorcycles only. They claimed it was discriminatory. The house agreed, then applied it to all vehicles.

The good new is that the current session may end before action is taken in the senate.

Eric