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Got the Contributing Memberships stuff finally worked out and made up a thread as a sort of "How-To" to help people figure out how to participate. So if you need help figuring it out, here's the thread you need to take a look at -> http://www.corvetteflorida.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3581 Thank you, everyone! Rich Z.
427 engine (part 2) - RHS block
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I'm in the same boat on black wheels--never have really been my cup of tea, but it seems to work pretty well on this one
Took the car to the local car show here in Tallahassee yesterday and made several stops afterwards, so had quite a few engine startups during the day. Didn't have any problems yet with that REDUCED ENGINE POWER issue since replacing the TAC module, so I'm hopeful I've got that fixed now. :thumbsup:
I took the C5Z out to day and had to make a bunch of stops, so I got to do a half dozen startups. Still no problems with that REDUCED ENGINE POWER issue. :dancer01:
So hopefully....... Man, wouldn't that be a miracle for me to make the right guess the first time about what I thought was causing the problem?
Oh, and I only had that drivetrain squeal happen once.
Speaking of which, a little while back I had the C6Z up on the lift and I noticed that there are some sort of covers on the bellhousing that appear to be dust covers for the flywheel. You can see them looking from the front of the car towards the rear, underneath, of course, attaching to either the block of the lower edges of the bellhousing. These are not present on my C5Z. So I took a couple of photos and sent them to Gene Culley to see if he can get them for me.
Here's the driver's side:
And here's the passenger side:
I'm wondering if what I am hearing is some junk getting between the flywheel and clutch pressure plate making that intermittent squealing noise. I live on a sandy road, and even though I drive REAL slow down it, certainly the front tires are kicking up sand and without those covers in place, maybe sand is getting in there. But in any event, I would guess having those dust covers in place would be a real good idea.
No telling where the originals wound up at. But I do know they were not there when I brought the car home from Aaron Scott's shop. Certainly they might not have been there after leaving Chris Harwood's place. :shrug01:
So hopefully....... Man, wouldn't that be a miracle for me to make the right guess the first time about what I thought was causing the problem?
Oh, and I only had that drivetrain squeal happen once.
Speaking of which, a little while back I had the C6Z up on the lift and I noticed that there are some sort of covers on the bellhousing that appear to be dust covers for the flywheel. You can see them looking from the front of the car towards the rear, underneath, of course, attaching to either the block of the lower edges of the bellhousing. These are not present on my C5Z. So I took a couple of photos and sent them to Gene Culley to see if he can get them for me.
Here's the driver's side:
And here's the passenger side:
I'm wondering if what I am hearing is some junk getting between the flywheel and clutch pressure plate making that intermittent squealing noise. I live on a sandy road, and even though I drive REAL slow down it, certainly the front tires are kicking up sand and without those covers in place, maybe sand is getting in there. But in any event, I would guess having those dust covers in place would be a real good idea.
No telling where the originals wound up at. But I do know they were not there when I brought the car home from Aaron Scott's shop. Certainly they might not have been there after leaving Chris Harwood's place. :shrug01:
Got the bell housing dust covers in today from Gene:
Notice that hole in the one on the passenger side? That's for the starter. So obviously it's to be put into place while the starter is out, so the starter can go THROUGH that hole to engage the flywheel. Also obvious is I sure as heck didn't want to pull the header off that side of the engine to get to the starter, so I had to improvise. What I did was to cut that dust cover at the lines I marked in red. Fortunately they are only made of plastic, so it was very easy to cut it until I got it to fit. So it doesn't go all the way around the starter, but it certainly will help to keep most of the junk from flying up into the bell housing while I am driving.
And, btw, it takes three bolts total for these things. Two on the passenger side, and one on the driver side. I only got two with them, but fortunately one of the screw, nut, and fastener kits I bought had a bunch of the correctly threaded and sized bolts included.
I kind of doubt that stuff blowing up into the bell housing was causing the drivetrain noise I've been hearing, but at least I feel better knowing those covers are in place now.
Notice that hole in the one on the passenger side? That's for the starter. So obviously it's to be put into place while the starter is out, so the starter can go THROUGH that hole to engage the flywheel. Also obvious is I sure as heck didn't want to pull the header off that side of the engine to get to the starter, so I had to improvise. What I did was to cut that dust cover at the lines I marked in red. Fortunately they are only made of plastic, so it was very easy to cut it until I got it to fit. So it doesn't go all the way around the starter, but it certainly will help to keep most of the junk from flying up into the bell housing while I am driving.
And, btw, it takes three bolts total for these things. Two on the passenger side, and one on the driver side. I only got two with them, but fortunately one of the screw, nut, and fastener kits I bought had a bunch of the correctly threaded and sized bolts included.
I kind of doubt that stuff blowing up into the bell housing was causing the drivetrain noise I've been hearing, but at least I feel better knowing those covers are in place now.
shakedown067
Sinister C4
Holy crap, you're still finding stuff! Craziness. Glad to see you've still got her though.
Yeah, those two shops really made a mess of things. The shame of it is that one of them is still in business. But I've heard that other people are now seeing the light about him.
I don't imagine that I'll ever get rid of this car now. It's sort of become a hobby all unto itself. Besides, I would NEVER recoup the money I had to spend on it just within the past 4 years.
shakedown067
Sinister C4
Yeah, I couldn't imagine you selling it either...but sometimes a straw can break a camels back. Now you just need to head out to a Texas Mile event with her one day...trailered to TX of course. 
Oh, there have been LOTS a straws that almost did that.
But surprisingly, Connie was the one who told me to just buck up and keep on plugging away at it. I was really worried about this all ruining our first couple years of retirement for us, which it did, but she just did not want me to give up on it.
I will say this, Connie says I no longer grind my teeth in my sleep like I did when all this nonsense was going on.
But surprisingly, Connie was the one who told me to just buck up and keep on plugging away at it. I was really worried about this all ruining our first couple years of retirement for us, which it did, but she just did not want me to give up on it.
I will say this, Connie says I no longer grind my teeth in my sleep like I did when all this nonsense was going on.
shakedown067
Sinister C4
That's a VERY good wife you've got there. She might be a keeper. LOL I'm pretty sure my wife would love for me to sell the Vette, but I don't blame her. It can take a lot of my spare time, that I'd rather spend with my young kids (3 and 1).
:lmao: Actually, yes, there is. This thread is an excellent example, I think.
85vette
Active member
I mean AFTER all that.
Update - 12/01/2015
The car has actually been running pretty strong, and no real notable problems except for an intermittent drive train noise. Back in September it seemed to get MUCH worse, and I benched the car for a while and started considering that I was going to have to pull out the drivetrain to fix or replace something. But I didn't want to jump in blindly not knowing what, exactly, I was looking for. So I started doing some research, looking for YouTube videos of people experiencing the same type of noise. I had my own video taken back in October of 2012 that clearly showed the problem in audio.
And I also sent off emails to a couple of people asking for their opinion of what they were hearing from the above mentioned video. The email I sent them was roughly the same as below:
I'm not sure the people involved really want their names named, so I'll just put quotes from their email replies here without names attached.
From SHOP #1
From ME
From SHOP #1
From ME
From SHOP #1
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From SHOP #2
From ME
From SHOP #2
Now I want to say here that this is nothing against the guy at the local Chevy dealership at all. I believe the guy is exceptional in what he does, but just do not believe that he is (or was) on top of the aftermarket options available. He chose what he thought was best for my situation, which was what he wanted to install to get my car on the road without going to anything exotic and possible questionable as to the suitability to my street driven vehicle. I would still go to him in a heartbeat if I needed work done from the dealership.
Anyway, this is where I am at right now. Interestingly enough, when I moved the C5Z from the garage bay it was in to the bay with the lift, the drivetrain didn't make even a peep. So I think I need to continue along driving it "as is" and just put up with the intermittent drivetrain noise. It will either get better, get worse, or stay the same. But in the meantime, I think I'll start researching a new clutch and try to decide on one for that time when the clutch NEEDS to be replaced. Once I have a brand and model targeted, just keep my eyes peeled for someone running a sale on it and then put it up on a shelf waiting for the time it is needed.
Yeah, it is embarrassing to have the car make that squealing noise now and again. But I don't believe the embarrassment is quite enough, at least yet, to convince me to pull out the drivetrain in order to get rid of it.
The car has actually been running pretty strong, and no real notable problems except for an intermittent drive train noise. Back in September it seemed to get MUCH worse, and I benched the car for a while and started considering that I was going to have to pull out the drivetrain to fix or replace something. But I didn't want to jump in blindly not knowing what, exactly, I was looking for. So I started doing some research, looking for YouTube videos of people experiencing the same type of noise. I had my own video taken back in October of 2012 that clearly showed the problem in audio.
And I also sent off emails to a couple of people asking for their opinion of what they were hearing from the above mentioned video. The email I sent them was roughly the same as below:
I'm not sure the people involved really want their names named, so I'll just put quotes from their email replies here without names attached.
From SHOP #1
From ME
From SHOP #1
From ME
From SHOP #1
======================================
From SHOP #2
From ME
From SHOP #2
Now I want to say here that this is nothing against the guy at the local Chevy dealership at all. I believe the guy is exceptional in what he does, but just do not believe that he is (or was) on top of the aftermarket options available. He chose what he thought was best for my situation, which was what he wanted to install to get my car on the road without going to anything exotic and possible questionable as to the suitability to my street driven vehicle. I would still go to him in a heartbeat if I needed work done from the dealership.
Anyway, this is where I am at right now. Interestingly enough, when I moved the C5Z from the garage bay it was in to the bay with the lift, the drivetrain didn't make even a peep. So I think I need to continue along driving it "as is" and just put up with the intermittent drivetrain noise. It will either get better, get worse, or stay the same. But in the meantime, I think I'll start researching a new clutch and try to decide on one for that time when the clutch NEEDS to be replaced. Once I have a brand and model targeted, just keep my eyes peeled for someone running a sale on it and then put it up on a shelf waiting for the time it is needed.
Yeah, it is embarrassing to have the car make that squealing noise now and again. But I don't believe the embarrassment is quite enough, at least yet, to convince me to pull out the drivetrain in order to get rid of it.
