shakedown067
Sinister C4
That's funny stuff right there... :lmao: I know I have to change mine enough as it is with only 300hp. :banghead:
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Got the Contributing Memberships stuff finally worked out and made up a thread as a sort of "How-To" to help people figure out how to participate. So if you need help figuring it out, here's the thread you need to take a look at -> http://www.corvetteflorida.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3581 Thank you, everyone! Rich Z.
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That's funny stuff right there... :lmao: I know I have to change mine enough as it is with only 300hp. :banghead:
Gannet
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Yes. The only time it'll ever be in "race" tune would be for a dyno pull, just to have the number, and for Mile racing. I would like to get into the 200 MPH Club in the mile, and I think 825 will be just about enough to do it. Other than that, 650 should be more than enough.
Part of the planning was to size the blower, cam, etc, to allow toggling between these two numbers. I want to be able to take road trips on 91 octane, with water, at 650. Then when needed for Mile racing, be able to wick it up enough with just a pulley and belt change, and changing the injection fluid to pure meth, but keep pump premium. We even built a drain system for the water/meth tank (ex-windshield washer reservoir) to facilitate this.
At 825 or so the F1-A blower is maxed out, and at 650 it's running as "slow" as it can go with the Corvette bracketry.So, a lot of thought went into it, but we'll have to see. The proof is in the pudding.
Yes. The only time it'll ever be in "race" tune would be for a dyno pull, just to have the number, and for Mile racing. I would like to get into the 200 MPH Club in the mile, and I think 825 will be just about enough to do it. Other than that, 650 should be more than enough.
Part of the planning was to size the blower, cam, etc, to allow toggling between these two numbers. I want to be able to take road trips on 91 octane, with water, at 650. Then when needed for Mile racing, be able to wick it up enough with just a pulley and belt change, and changing the injection fluid to pure meth, but keep pump premium. We even built a drain system for the water/meth tank (ex-windshield washer reservoir) to facilitate this.
So, a lot of thought went into it, but we'll have to see. The proof is in the pudding.
Won't you have to run a different tune when you switch to 850hp? I would think A/F ratio, injector impulse width, timing, etc. would have to be altered to compensate for more fuel and air being forced into the cylinders. :shrug01:
Gannet
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Oh, of course! I left that part out. I have my own copy of HP Tuners and can switch them at will. Richer fuel, less spark, with more boost.
Well, things are on ice till Monday with my car. Even though that tropical storm seems to have dissipated, Jim felt it would be best to just come on back up on Monday. Can't blame him, as I'm sure this is getting pretty old to him.
Hopefully Aaron and Jim can put in some dedicated time without any distractions and either get it finished or reach the next problem as the onion gets unpeeled. It should be close, barring any further failures or something coming up where Jim can't get back to Thomasville.
Hopefully Aaron and Jim can put in some dedicated time without any distractions and either get it finished or reach the next problem as the onion gets unpeeled. It should be close, barring any further failures or something coming up where Jim can't get back to Thomasville.
In a way I wish you had started your own thread here on your build. That way I could have followed you along with your build to see how it was progressing. Not that I wish on you the trials and tribulations I have been going through, but at least I wouldn't feel that God had singled me out to put me through this hell. I honestly had no clue about what this was going to turn into. But I guess every path I have ever chosen in life can't be the BEST choice. But heck, maybe a few years from now I'll look back at this all and think "Hmm, I got BOTH a C6 Z06 AND got my C5Z built the way I wanted it. Imagine that...." :shrug01: Of course, it's always possible, instead, that I'll be bouncing happily off of the walls, screaming like a banshee, in a locked and padded cell if the problems continue with the C5Z... :hehehe:
Heck, without Connie supporting me all along the way with this, quite likely that "padded cell" scenario would certainly be true by now. This would have been REALLY rough to go through had I had a wife that would constantly be rubbing my nose into my dumb decision every chance she got.
Gannet
New member
Hang in there, my friend. One of the things I've learned since starting on this journey is that having a build take this long is not all that unusual. Even your sorry saga of sequential screwups is, sadly, not rare.
There are reasons I haven't really had much to say about my build, which is not my usual style at all. They all revolve around commitments to other people to either not say unpleasant things, or refrain from saying pleasant things so as not to upstage.others. I know that's a little cryptic, but we're still not "done" yet. Once we are, then I will feel free to be more forthcoming.
Thanks for letting me come in and thread-crap on your thread once in a while. It lets me vent a little and yet still feel like I haven't violated my commitments. You, of all people, can I understand what I'm going through, and vice-versa. Sometime after both our cars are done we'll have to meet over a glass and I'll tell you all about it.
One of the things I've learned since starting on this journey is that having a build take this long is not all that unusual. Even your sorry saga of sequential screwups is, sadly, not rare.There are reasons I haven't really had much to say about my build, which is not my usual style at all. They all revolve around commitments to other people to either not say unpleasant things, or refrain from saying pleasant things so as not to upstage.others. I know that's a little cryptic, but we're still not "done" yet. Once we are, then I will feel free to be more forthcoming.
Thanks for letting me come in and thread-crap on your thread once in a while. It lets me vent a little and yet still feel like I haven't violated my commitments. You, of all people, can I understand what I'm going through, and vice-versa. Sometime after both our cars are done we'll have to meet over a glass and I'll tell you all about it.
Hang in there, my friend.
There are reasons I haven't really had much to say about my build, which is not my usual style at all. They all revolve around commitments to other people to either not say unpleasant things, or refrain from saying pleasant things so as not to upstage.others. I know that's a little cryptic, but we're still not "done" yet. Once we are, then I will feel free to be more forthcoming.
Thanks for letting me come in and thread-crap on your thread once in a while. It lets me vent a little and yet still feel like I haven't violated my commitments. You, of all people, can I understand what I'm going through, and vice-versa. Sometime after both our cars are done we'll have to meet over a glass and I'll tell you all about it.
Dave, yeah, I hear you. I think this is a battle between the logical side and the emotional side of us. The logical side learning that huge builds like these are complicated and fraught with delays and problems does not in any way mollify nor quell the raging of the emotional side that only sees that we are not driving our cars NOW. Of course, in my instance, having the guy who originally worked on my car lying to me and stealing from me made my emotional side hyper sensitive and leaning quite a bit to the paranoid side. I think Aaron Scott and Jim Smith are as ethical and honest as they come, but still, when they tell me the sky is blue, I STILL walk outside to look to make certain.
I'm sure we'll get together sometime and trade war stories. Probably several other people would like to join in with their own similar stories to tell.
As for discussing you car here, heck, join in. Honestly it gives me something else to think about, that I REALLY need to do.
BTW, I never knew what the phrase "keep a stiff upper lip" actually meant until recently. Been getting cramps in my upper lip quite often lately..
Yeah, I hear that. Stuff like that drives me nuts. The bird feeder outside our bedroom window is slightly crooked and I'm waiting to see how long I can resist "fixing" that.....
BTW, there was an interesting post made over on CorvetteForum about this saga...
The first thing that is interesting is that this was post number 1,578,371,881. That's one and a half BILLION posts made over there!
In any event I talked to Aaron yesterday and they are still working on the car. They have started the tune over from scratch using HPtuners so it's going to take a couple of more days before the WOT stuff on the dyno is ready to be done, I guess. I remember Jim had a problem with his computer, so he's afraid that perhaps something in that original tune got corrupted and is frying those PCMs. Based on the above, that certainly looks possible, and this was likely a wise decision. In any event, so far it hasn't burned up any more of them.
The first thing that is interesting is that this was post number 1,578,371,881. That's one and a half BILLION posts made over there!
In any event I talked to Aaron yesterday and they are still working on the car. They have started the tune over from scratch using HPtuners so it's going to take a couple of more days before the WOT stuff on the dyno is ready to be done, I guess. I remember Jim had a problem with his computer, so he's afraid that perhaps something in that original tune got corrupted and is frying those PCMs. Based on the above, that certainly looks possible, and this was likely a wise decision. In any event, so far it hasn't burned up any more of them.
shakedown067
Sinister C4
Good to hear she's back on the dyno! :thumbsup:
Got a call from Aaron just a few minutes ago. Seriously, I actually cringed when I saw his number on the caller ID. I thought, "Aw hell, here we go with more bad news...."
But lo and behold all he had was GOOD news. He said they've got most of the tuning done, at least on the dyno up to around 4500 rpm, and the car is running GREAT. It's running a bit lean when boost kicks in, so he left that to tackle tomorrow. No glitches, no failures, no odd behavior, no stumbling. Nothing. Starts right up, idles perfectly, revs up and drops down smooth as silk.
So, it's possible I may be running out there tomorrow to video some WOT stuff tomorrow afternoon. We'll see how the morning goes and he'll call me to let me know.
Well, I'm not going to say anything stupid to invoke Murphy's wrath. So I'll just leave it at there was nothing but good news today.
But lo and behold all he had was GOOD news. He said they've got most of the tuning done, at least on the dyno up to around 4500 rpm, and the car is running GREAT. It's running a bit lean when boost kicks in, so he left that to tackle tomorrow. No glitches, no failures, no odd behavior, no stumbling. Nothing. Starts right up, idles perfectly, revs up and drops down smooth as silk.
So, it's possible I may be running out there tomorrow to video some WOT stuff tomorrow afternoon. We'll see how the morning goes and he'll call me to let me know.
Well, I'm not going to say anything stupid to invoke Murphy's wrath. So I'll just leave it at there was nothing but good news today.
z06ufgrad2002
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:thumbsup: Your car sounds awesome. I would guess it's making more hp than you think given how fast it revs up. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
palmbeachvette76
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Hallelujah, if anyone on God's beautiful green earth deserves some good news, it is YOU!! :dancer01: Looking forward to the drive home video with your car in your garage :thumbsup:
I guess maybe you should have crossed your eyes as well....
Yeah, I know they say "no news is good news", but in this case, I don't believe it for an instant. Aaron was supposed to call me today, but since he did not, I have to assume that this does not bode well..... :nonod:
But should I expect anything else, all things considered?
Well, apparently he was just busy. Aaron called me around 10:30 tonight to tell me everything is OK, just taking longer than he had expected. They are going through every table in the tune with a fine tooth comb making sure there are no lurking problems. Apparently they were working on the car well into the night.
He said he's having trouble getting the rear tires to bite into the dyno drum. I offered to run those wheels and tires I bought out there to him, but he thinks he can get by with some weight in the trunk and by REALLY strapping the car down. Apparently the rubber on those tires has gotten hardened and lost a lot of their grip. Even with the tires slipping, they were seeing 600+ rwhp at 5k rpm. I think turbos are hard to get an accurate reading anyway on the dyno because there really aren't seeing the load they see in real life. I guess those rear tires will be ready to be replaced anyway by the time I get the car.
Reading between the lines of what he was telling me, I don't think he believes they will be done till maybe Saturday. Barring any failures, of course.
I'm sure there is going to be a lot of cleanup to do after the tuning is done, so no matter what, it's going to be at least a week or better before the car comes home, even with everything going perfect from here on out.
He said he's having trouble getting the rear tires to bite into the dyno drum. I offered to run those wheels and tires I bought out there to him, but he thinks he can get by with some weight in the trunk and by REALLY strapping the car down. Apparently the rubber on those tires has gotten hardened and lost a lot of their grip. Even with the tires slipping, they were seeing 600+ rwhp at 5k rpm. I think turbos are hard to get an accurate reading anyway on the dyno because there really aren't seeing the load they see in real life. I guess those rear tires will be ready to be replaced anyway by the time I get the car.
Reading between the lines of what he was telling me, I don't think he believes they will be done till maybe Saturday. Barring any failures, of course.
I'm sure there is going to be a lot of cleanup to do after the tuning is done, so no matter what, it's going to be at least a week or better before the car comes home, even with everything going perfect from here on out.