• Got the Contributing Memberships stuff finally worked out and made up a thread as a sort of "How-To" to help people figure out how to participate. So if you need help figuring it out, here's the thread you need to take a look at -> http://www.corvetteflorida.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3581 Thank you, everyone! Rich Z.

AR style .223 Wanted

Corey, I can't say a specific mfg is imparitive. Heck they're pretty much all mil-spec stuff anyway. Believe it or not I'm hearing that a newer flat top made my Spike (Apopka,FL) is a pretty good gun. As to price range I'd like to stay under 1K.

Going to go and look at a few today but please feel free to offer input.

Ken:thumbsup:
 
Florida Gun trader is full of over priced dealers posing as private individuals and lowballers.

Floridashootersnetwork.com is the place to go. Youll have to be an active member for a week or two til you can access the classifieds, but the knowledge and deals and most of all good people are there.

Spikes sell the Stag Arms M4 upper and lower parts kit. . Great basic entry level rifle. The A3 flat top is very versitile and def worth holding out for. You can run a removeable carry handle or a host of other iron sights as well as optics...

Bushmaster, Rock River Arms, Stag, DPMS, Smith & Wesson (I may be missing one or two other brands) are good rifles that you should be able to get in the $700-$800 range new..

Stay away from Olympic Arms...

Colt- IMO great rifles, but youre spending extra money on the name.

Your Noveske's, Sigs, LMT's and others are on the high end of the price range. .
 
Made the jump today and purchased a Spikes M4LE. Tomorrow the range to get a few rounds through her. I like what I see and what I feel. Will no doubt go with optics shortly but want to shoot iron sights for a bit.

Have heard good things and I like the 1 in 7 twist.

What do you who know suggest as to optics? Please don't even suggest the $1200+ ACOG's. My preference would be a red dot something or other but nothing speaks as strongly as the experience of others.

Come on RichZ I know you have much knowledge (and enough fire power to end the next world war) to offer some good ideas for a mid priced red dot.
 
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Made the jump today and purchased a Spikes M4LE. Tomorrow the range to get a few rounds through her. I like what I see and what I feel. Will no doubt go with optics shortly but want to shoot iron sights for a bit.

Have heard good things and I like the 1 in 7 twist.

What do you who know suggest as to optics? Please don't even suggest the $1200+ ACOG's. My preference would be a red dot something or other but nothing speaks as strongly as the experience of others.

Come on RichZ I know you have much knowledge (and enough fire power to end the next world war) to offer some good ideas for a mid priced red dot.
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Yeah, but honestly it's been a LONG time since I've bought any gun stuff. So I have to assume what I have used in the past has been surpassed by later technology.

I too prefer red dot scopes, but I have noticed a problem with them and my eyes. Some will be very blurry and not provide a nice sharp dot. So realistically you have to try them out to see if they are compatible with your eyes. This might not be a problem for everyone, but I know it is with me, and assume I am not unique in that respect.

But I will say this, I have not seen any other merchandise hold more accurately to the saying that "you get what you pay for" than rifle or handgun scopes.

Now with that being said, I believe the last red dot scopes I bought that I thought were moderately priced and quality built (and I could use them without problems) were the Leupold/Gilmore brand. But your mileage may vary, of course.
 
Ive got a Rock River AR15, I def wanted the ACOG but not the 1500 dollar price tag....instead I spent 950 bucks lol on a Eotech A512.63 and the Eotech 3x Magnifier with the FTS (flip to side) mount. Its a pretty spiffy setup for the price.
 
There are pretty good clone/knock offs on ebay... primary Arms is one. . for scopes, Pentax Ive heard are pretty good quality..

When youre at the range, experiment with different grain loads. . . the 1:7 ratio barrels seem to group well with a little heavier 55gr... 45gr is prob gonna be too light for your barrel...

For ammo, Walmart is pretty good when they have the caliber in stock.. look for the Federal "value pack" of 100 rounds for $40.. that ammo groups very well for me and is a pretty good deal...
 
Yeah, the 1:7 ratio was designed for more into the 62 to 65 grain projectile range. The SS109 (U.S. M855), I believe, was the impetus originally for that twist rate. But there have been some accounts of the thin jacketed 52 grain projectiles actually coming apart in flight, so it is not well suited for the lighted weight projectiles, evidently.
 
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