Liz, have you contacted the sheriff's office?
I do not believe any of the victims were asked about whether or not they want to press charges. This appears to be a "take it or leave it" proposition that the sheriff's office is offering.
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Liz, have you contacted the sheriff's office?
I do not believe any of the victims were asked about whether or not they want to press charges. This appears to be a "take it or leave it" proposition that the sheriff's office is offering.
Someoneyoushouldknow
victim #1
I spoke with him on the phone and what I was told is, he needed clear cut cases of theft, ie; your transmission, where you paid for it and it wasn't even ordered.Thing is because he's paying back the people he stole from and they are taking the money, that is in a roundabout way erasing the theft. My case is more fraud and him being a dumbass.
Did you meet with him on the 18th?
Did you meet with him on the 18th?
No. Captain Michael Bryant cancelled the meeting.
Interestingly enough, at the same time, this Capt. Bryant stated that Chris Harwood claims I surreptitiously videotaped him without his consent. With all the email evidence and witnesses I have to the contrary, which Chris Harwood has to be aware of, much less the actual circumstances under which I did the actual video taping, this claim is laughable, at best..... :rofl1:
Liz, I don't think this is factual. Regardless if he pays the money back or not he's still committed the crimes. I believe I read that the state is the victim and you're a witness or something to that affect. For instance, once the state starts their investigation you cannot tell them to just forget it because you've changed your mind.
I think the main problem is that you said "I spoke with him on the phone". If they can avoid a problem by just telling you to forget it then case closed. I would suggest instead of just hoping harwood would come down with VD that you start demanding justice. Go down there and talk to Bryant and try to get him on your side. If that doesn't work try talking to the sheriff. When you have exhausted all of your avenues then start filing complaints. Do not take no for an answer.
Rich has been asking for help and not many have stepped up to the plate. That's what I don't understand. When we vent, it's good for us but it does nothing to solve the problem.
Someoneyoushouldknow
victim #1
Rich, That is hilarious that he would say that, since he set up the video camera and taped himself working by himself. INSANE.
Bob, I've kinda been dealing with it for a LONG while and if people had listened to me from the start instead of telling me I was at fault, a lot of people wouldn't have been screwed. I have been 100 percent supportive and helpful along the way. I have spoken with several people about this as well as most of the people listed as contacts here. While I am not CC the Gov on my emails. I am in fact doing plenty. The State will not charge him in a case where he can claim that he refunded the money. It's a waste of tax payers money and the State's time. For example here's an easy defense...
" I was going to put the part in but my shop closed and I had no choice but to issue a refund" ( see NO THEFT)
While you and I know this is not the truth and we've had to chase him under the rock he's hiding under, this is how the State has to look at things. The Sheriff's office needs clear cut cases of theft, why they don't care about fraud I don't know.
Bob, I've kinda been dealing with it for a LONG while and if people had listened to me from the start instead of telling me I was at fault, a lot of people wouldn't have been screwed. I have been 100 percent supportive and helpful along the way. I have spoken with several people about this as well as most of the people listed as contacts here. While I am not CC the Gov on my emails. I am in fact doing plenty. The State will not charge him in a case where he can claim that he refunded the money. It's a waste of tax payers money and the State's time. For example here's an easy defense...
" I was going to put the part in but my shop closed and I had no choice but to issue a refund" ( see NO THEFT)
While you and I know this is not the truth and we've had to chase him under the rock he's hiding under, this is how the State has to look at things. The Sheriff's office needs clear cut cases of theft, why they don't care about fraud I don't know.
vetteguy61
New member
What the heck is TMCA?
It looks like someone pissed off Chris Harwood and I guess this is how he feels he can get some retribution, in my opinion. 
Speaking of which, one thing I have noticed in conversations with Chris Harwood is that he has not expressed any remorse or regrets for what he has done to me. He has never apologized to me for lying about putting the new transmission and differential in my car that I paid him for. Never apologized for lying to me stating that he had had my turbos rebuilt and Jet Hot coated that I paid him for when they had not actually been done. And never apologized for not putting that transmission brace on my car that I paid for.
I have to admit that the folks over on TMCA (Tallahassee Muscle Car Association) certainly did warn me about Chris Harwood. Unfortunately, I chose to give him the benefit of ALL doubts, much to my chagrin.
Speaking of which, one thing I have noticed in conversations with Chris Harwood is that he has not expressed any remorse or regrets for what he has done to me. He has never apologized to me for lying about putting the new transmission and differential in my car that I paid him for. Never apologized for lying to me stating that he had had my turbos rebuilt and Jet Hot coated that I paid him for when they had not actually been done. And never apologized for not putting that transmission brace on my car that I paid for.
I have to admit that the folks over on TMCA (Tallahassee Muscle Car Association) certainly did warn me about Chris Harwood. Unfortunately, I chose to give him the benefit of ALL doubts, much to my chagrin.
Just wanted to make a note here that I have received a refund check for $5,060.00 from Chris Harwood on an XtremeMotorsports invoice for the following items that I paid him for and did not receive:
The check was from the Sports Car Technologies account.
- Differential
- Transmission
- Turbo rebuild
- Transmission brace
The check was from the Sports Car Technologies account.
Item 3. Are those the turbos you have to replace? I know, another stupid comment. So is he paying for the new ones?
No. The latest damage to the turbos has nothing to do, as far as I know, with that past situation. Harwood indicated that the turbos needed to be rebuilt at that time, when they apparently did not, and charged me for the rebuild anyway, stating that the work had been done by STS.
Regardless, he paid me back the money I paid for that original rebuild that never took place. There was no indication of damage to the turbos up till recently, and specifically not until after a failure of the wastegate may have run the turbos up into an overspeed condition. I just cannot blame Harwood for that. It's just one of many of the damn bad breaks I've gotten concerning this car.
When I get my car back, I will determine from the bill and detailing of the labor that Aaron did to complete the work what charges are still Harwood's responsibility. Not everything will be, however a substantial portion will be the result of his not providing me the transmission, differential, and trans brace I paid for, and his putting the incorrect clutch in the car, necessitating pulling out the drivetrain to replace those items with the correct ones. There is also the cost of the tuning that he is responsible for as well as any mechanical work that was not completed as promised as of September 17, 2010 that Aaron had to complete. I will be fair to him about this, regardless of how he treated me, but he is responsible for the work I paid him to do that he did not complete, or did not do competently, and I had to pay someone else to do.
Yes, it does come as quite a shock to learn that some people can think so completely differently than you do yourself that they might as well be from another planet.
vetteguy61
New member
Harwood told me months ago that he was not going to repay any money for lost parts or the cost to have my car put back together. As far as he was concerned, it's just too bad for me having to pay out all the money I did in getting my car put back together.
vetteguy61
New member
imo
That's why you need to change his mind.
You may want to consider consulting with an attorney's office to see if they feel you have a case you can prevail at in a civil lawsuit against him PERSONALLY. I know some people believe that these are worthless in that if the losing defendant does not have assets to collect upon, then a judgment against them is of no consequence in collecting the money owed. But I beg to differ. Getting such a judgment will give you the legal right to be the shadow behind the losing party until they do pay you back the amount awarded in that judgment. You can make inquiries to the IRS about the income they have filed taxes on. You can take steps to locate any source of income he or other members of his family may have to satisfy the judgment. If he holds down a job and wages are involved, contact that employer and take steps to attach his wages. If he is working some place, earning money under the table and shows no income via the IRS, then that can be reported. Of course, the employer is going to want to know about this judgment, and it may prove quite awkward to the defendant to have his past actions exposed in such a manner to the person employing him.
No, I think you will have quite a bit of leverage to get satisfaction, in a financial sense, in such a case. It is very doubtful that any person would want to be subjected to that kind of legal scrutiny for very long with you having a hook set in his butt cheeks to be dragged along behind him. Besides, you never know. Mr. Harwood could come into some money via an inheritance sometime down the road and you could be first in line to collect that money owed to you if that happens.
Of course, this is all my personal opinion of a possibly viable step to take in this instance. YMMV.....
