grumpyvette
retired mech engineer
IS it just me or do you guys also have neighbors or acquaintances, that it seems would rather be skinned alive,with a razor, rolled in salt and slowly lowered into a wood chipper than take the time to read the linked info on how to do something, or do the simplest research on a problem, or do the actual work on their own cars?
I had a neighbor recently come over a few weeks ago asking how to do something rather simple but a bit time intensive that was well within his ability's, (replacing his oil pan and oil pump) I explained what he needed to do, brought him in to my shop, showed him a link with part numbers,on my lap top, for the required gaskets and pictures of the parts, and sent him the link on his computer, gave him the phone numbers where he could buy the parts locally or on-line cheaply, and told him Id help HIM do the job by supervising and pointing out every step, required while he did the work,and even help if he got really stuck during the process, but I also pointed out that it was really not that difficult, just a bit messy and time intensive,and if he HELPED, AND supplied lunch and coffee, or paid $50 and purchased all parts required, he called back asking several times for the same basic info, I had the feeling he was really just trying to get me to do the work or find someone to do the work for free,, now I have zero problem helping out, most guys but I know from experience that this guy won,t even buy lunch, will complain if a job takes more than a couple hours, let alone pay a minimum hourly rate for work, or just slip me $50 for doing what any dealership would see as a $500 plus job, and its on a corvette that doesn,t even have the cross member in the way and I know this guy has the tools,basic skill , jack stands and floor jacks etc.
honestly if the guy was just willing to get his hands greasy or supply hot coffee and conversation and make a run and buy any required parts, and spend some time on a mechanics creeper under his own car, Id most likely jump on the opportunity to help out..., but when you hand a guy the link listing the parts and explain the process several tiimes in detail, and the guys both not willing to buy the parts and offer to at least help in the process or slip you a few bucks for a couple hours work and acts like buying parts, researching what needs to be done or even be involved in the repair process is beneath him,to the extent hes not even willing to hand you tools and buy lunch.....IS it just me or would you tell this guy to take a hike?
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I had a neighbor recently come over a few weeks ago asking how to do something rather simple but a bit time intensive that was well within his ability's, (replacing his oil pan and oil pump) I explained what he needed to do, brought him in to my shop, showed him a link with part numbers,on my lap top, for the required gaskets and pictures of the parts, and sent him the link on his computer, gave him the phone numbers where he could buy the parts locally or on-line cheaply, and told him Id help HIM do the job by supervising and pointing out every step, required while he did the work,and even help if he got really stuck during the process, but I also pointed out that it was really not that difficult, just a bit messy and time intensive,and if he HELPED, AND supplied lunch and coffee, or paid $50 and purchased all parts required, he called back asking several times for the same basic info, I had the feeling he was really just trying to get me to do the work or find someone to do the work for free,, now I have zero problem helping out, most guys but I know from experience that this guy won,t even buy lunch, will complain if a job takes more than a couple hours, let alone pay a minimum hourly rate for work, or just slip me $50 for doing what any dealership would see as a $500 plus job, and its on a corvette that doesn,t even have the cross member in the way and I know this guy has the tools,basic skill , jack stands and floor jacks etc.
honestly if the guy was just willing to get his hands greasy or supply hot coffee and conversation and make a run and buy any required parts, and spend some time on a mechanics creeper under his own car, Id most likely jump on the opportunity to help out..., but when you hand a guy the link listing the parts and explain the process several tiimes in detail, and the guys both not willing to buy the parts and offer to at least help in the process or slip you a few bucks for a couple hours work and acts like buying parts, researching what needs to be done or even be involved in the repair process is beneath him,to the extent hes not even willing to hand you tools and buy lunch.....IS it just me or would you tell this guy to take a hike?
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http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4687&hilit=over+projects+getting+your+head
http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=26&hilit=under+stands+safety
http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=5893&p=18037&hilit=reluctance#p18037
http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=728
http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=6011