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Need new radiator!!

pjac5vette

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Hi Guys, Have a new dilemma with my 2000 C5 vette. Thought I had a bad hose clamp but turns out the tank on the drivers side has a split in the top of the tank. Need a new radiator and thought I would get your opinion on what to buy. Should I buy a new stock gm replacement radiator or one of those aluminium radiators? What brand of aluminium radiator is the best stock replacement? Thanks for your input. :dancer01:
 
Jusy my $.02. My 03 BB was running a bit warm and I too chose a DeWitts drop in Alum. The results were awesome and still are 5 years later. DeWitts is the right answer.:dancer01:
 
Hi Guys, Have a new dilemma with my 2000 C5 vette. Thought I had a bad hose clamp but turns out the tank on the drivers side has a split in the top of the tank. Need a new radiator and thought I would get your opinion on what to buy. Should I buy a new stock gm replacement radiator or one of those aluminium radiators? What brand of aluminium radiator is the best stock replacement? Thanks for your input. :dancer01:
If you decide to replace the stock radiator with a DeWitts, post some pictures of the install, as well as some info on how it went. I would imagine that there will be more of us looking to do this mod to our rides in the future, and we would all benefit from some pictures and first hand knowledge. THANKS!
Andy Anderson
 
To take full advantage of the benefits of a better radiator, you really should put in a lower temp thermostat as well.
 
c5 radiator??

Thanks everybody for the feedback!!:dancer01: It appears that the radiator failure occured on the top of the plastic side tank on the drivers side. There is a seam that seperated on the top causing fluid to leak out. Think I will go with the Dewitt Aluminum radiator. I'll try to get some pics when I do the radiator change out. Going to Savannah, Georgia to visit my son so won't be playing with the vette till I get back next week. Found out that there is only one design for the six speed vette that I think runs around $549.00 from Dewitt. Think the model # is A97M. If anybody knows were I can get one for less please send me the info. Thanks, Phil:thumbsup:
 
Hi Rich, What temp thermostat should I put in the vette? I have the throttle body coolant line bypass kit installed and that kit that moves the air temp sensor closer to the front of the air tunnel. Thamks, Phil
 
Hi Rich, What temp thermostat should I put in the vette? I have the throttle body coolant line bypass kit installed and that kit that moves the air temp sensor closer to the front of the air tunnel. Thamks, Phil

I liked the results I got from the 160 degree thermostat. But I think you really need to use an aftermarket radiator along with it to get the full benefits. A thermostat controls the temperature at which coolant is fully allowed to circulate through the engine and radiator. It's purpose is to cause the engine to reaching operating temperature quickly by restricting the coolant flow till operating temperature is reached. When it is fully open, it has no further effect on the coolant temperature. At that time it is the function of the radiator that controls the OPERATING TEMPERATURE of the engine. So if your radiator is only efficient enough to keep the coolant operating temp at around 200 degrees, once the thermostat opens, the coolant temp will continue to rise till it reaches that equilibrium point. I believe the stock thermostat is something like 195 degrees, so this balances well for what GM wants.

Personally I just like a cooler running engine. For that you really need a better radiator. But if your thermostat FORCES the coolant temperature to be at least 195 degrees, you really won't gain much unless you also replace that thermostat with a lower temp unit.
 
Hi Rich, Thanks for the info. I just ordered a Dewitts A97m aluminium radiator today for my 2000c5 to replace the stock radiator with the cracked plastic tank. I had the car dyno tuned a few years ago at AntiVenom but don't remember if they reset the fans to come on at a lower temp. Would a 170 degree thermostat be my best bet or should I call AntiVenom to see if they have a record of my dynotune specks? Thanks for your expert opinions, Phil
 
I am FAR from being an expert! But if you understand how things actually work, and WHY, then you can understand how to logically make them better. Designs are always based on compromises. Some of those compromises may not be based on what YOU want, so perhaps you can change the design to be more in line with what YOU desire.

The difference between a 160 degree and 170 degree thermostat will be negligible since this really only affects the temp that the thermostat opens fully, but still, ten degrees is ten degrees. Why are you doing this in the first place? Personally I would rather my cooling system open up at the coolest reasonable temperature possible. Heat just is not good for most things concerning wear and longevity. So the 160 seems the logical choice to me. In my opinion, the lower the temp whereby coolant flows through the engine, the better.

Now I'm sure the thought pops into some people's mind to just forego a thermostat completely. Sure it's nice when you live up in Montana and want your car to heat up as quickly as it can so you don't freeze your buns off when you drive into work. But here in Florida, well, it's probably rare that you even use your heater. So why not just remove the thermostat completely? Well, even a fully opened thermostat, no matter what the opening temperature, does act as a sort of restrictor plate for the cooling system fluid. Without it, there is evidence that the coolant doesn't stay within the radiator long enough for the radiator to do it's job of cooling down the fluid. Remember that not only is the coolant fluid making contact with the inner surfaces of the radiator trying to shed the heat, but it is also in contact with the HOT surfaces around the cylinders that are generating a LOT of heat from each controlled explosion within them. The radiator HAS to shed more heat than the coolant is picking up from the engine, because otherwise, the coolant will try to reach the same temperature as the flames within the cylinders. You REALLY don't want that to happen. So paradoxically, removing the thermostat completely can sometimes make your engine coolant run hotter than with it in place because the radiator doesn't hold the coolant long enough to do it's job. I suspect this is most likely the case with a puny stock radiator, but remember this is a SYSTEM, where all parts have some effect on the outcome. There are actually a lot of variables at work if you think it all through.

If you do a lot of city driving, changing the set points for the coolant fans by reprogramming would be beneficial. But generally speaking with a stock system, if your fans are running while you are driving down the freeway, something is wrong with your coolant system. Or if they have been aftermarket reprogrammed, they were not programmed correctly for realistic temperatures. The fans are there to take the place of naturally flowing air through the radiator when you are not driving at speed. Sitting in traffic there is very little air flowing through the radiator, so the fans are designed to emulate this airflow by forcibly PULLING air through it. So if your goal is to reduce your coolant temperatures, no matter where or how you are driving, then the fans do need to be addressed for those times you are not driving at speed for the airflow to allow the radiator to shed the heat from the coolant into that flowing air stream through it. The new set points for the fans will have to be determined by the new operating temperature of your coolant system. Just make sure the settings are realistic and you don't wind up burning out your fan motors because they have been set TOO low and run nearly constantly because the coolant system just can't meet the unrealistic goal you have set for it.
 
Radiator in!!

Hey Guys, Just want to give all a heads up on why I think the plastic tank on my radiator split at the seam. While taking out the radiator I noticed the air conditioning condensor was warped like a crecent shape and was pulling on the end tanks. The radiator fins were completely clogged with dirt/soot and so is the condensor. My theory is that the surface area of the condensor for cooling the freon was compromised due to all the dirt and soot blocking the fins causing it to warp. So I would suggest anyone with a vette greater then seven years old to check the radiator and condensor to see if the fins are clogged up.
 
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