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Oil spill - the end of fresh Florida seafood?

Shadow said:
BP has already publically agreed to forego the 75 mil cap and pay ALL cleanup costs. That remains to be seen.

As for nature cleaning it up, she certainly will...that's where the coral and seagrasses come in. Unfortunatly, they toll on the fragile ocean envirnoment (now I'm sounding like a tree hugger!) will suffer.

Nature was never intended to clean up massive amounts of OIL!!
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Nothing wrong with being a tree hugger Shadow. Nature can only take care of so much abuse and we have to accept some responsibility for our actions. If I had been a cop which is what I had always wanted to do I would have spent a lot of my time citing anyone throwing trash out the car window. I wonder how much of our tax dollars go for that cleanup.

There's no doubt in my mind that BP will pay for the cleanup. Problem is all of the little people like us are going to get phucked big time. They have to prove their losses, fight to get their money and in the mean time they'll lose everything they have.

I think BP should be required to put up some money immediately to cover the losses suffered by these people so they don't lose everything they have. I'm thinking about people like the fisherman who's going to lose his boat, mom and pop operations depending on tourists to make the payments on their establishments and all of the rest I don't even know about.
 
Rich Z said:
Eh? I thought this was a NEW well that was just recently drilled? The platform that exploded was a DRILLING platform, not actually the platform that extracts the oil from the well. :shrug01:

If that is so, then what exactly had been "deteriorating for quite some time"?

Maybe I'm just completely mistaken about the above...... :confused:
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They are questioning one of the platform workers who stated that parts of the seal at the sea bed was deteriorating and pieces of it were coming up with the oil. He made it known to supervisors and they ignored his warnings.
 
Bob K said:
Nothing wrong with being a tree hugger Shadow. Nature can only take care of so much abuse and we have to accept some responsibility for our actions. If I had been a cop which is what I had always wanted to do I would have spent a lot of my time citing anyone throwing trash out the car window. I wonder how much of our tax dollars go for that cleanup.

There's no doubt in my mind that BP will pay for the cleanup. Problem is all of the little people like us are going to get phucked big time. They have to prove their losses, fight to get their money and in the mean time they'll lose everything they have.

I think BP should be required to put up some money immediately to cover the losses suffered by these people so they don't lose everything they have. I'm thinking about people like the fisherman who's going to lose his boat, mom and pop operations depending on tourists to make the payments on their establishments and all of the rest I don't even know about.
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Yeah... Many people live paycheck to paycheck. It will do them absolutely no good at all if their income stops dead NOW and they may have a payment for their entire year's earning potential sent to them two years from now. Everything they own will have been lost anyway when they cannot pay the bills that come rolling in every month.

I just hope that the Washington Dumbass Critters don't come to the conclusion that the way to fix THIS problem is by just cranking up the money making machines again and just print up more money to "solve" this problem.
 
Rich Z said:
Yeah... Many people live paycheck to paycheck. It will do them absolutely no good at all if their income stops dead NOW and they may have a payment for their entire year's earning potential sent to them two years from now. Everything they own will have been lost anyway when they cannot pay the bills that come rolling in every month.

I just hope that the Washington Dumbass Critters don't come to the conclusion that the way to fix THIS problem is by just cranking up the money making machines again and just print up more money to "solve" this problem.
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I realize things are tight for a lot of us. Those that depend on the sea and it's bounties for income will suffer no doubt:(

If the $$ is too slow in reaching them, you can bet the sharks, I mean attorney's will come out in force to "help".:rolleyes:

In reality though, a bankruptcy will stave off most of the creditors long enough in most cases to get the $$$ from, BP to make thier debts. Unless the people are already behind, then that's not BP (or anyone elses) fault.

I'm with you on the money machine....don't!
 
The government will never go for this because it's obviously way too simple. First there needs to be a study done by the DEP, Marine Fisheries Lab, NOAA, and other various governmental agencies to determine the feasability of such an operation. That said, funding would have to be sought for such a study. That would take a minimum of 6 months and then there would have to be a permitting process and corporate certifications of any companies that would wish to be involved. On top of that, the gentlemen that are demonstrating this solution are obviously from the south, and are NOT politicians, so for these reasons alone, this idea should not be considered, as it's simply "not politically correct"! :shrug01:
 
Yeah.... Surely there is a group of "straw-huggers" out there somewhere that will protest and riot over the straw being exposed to contamination.... :rolleyes:

And then a lengthy environmental impact study will need to be done concerning what to do with that contaminated material. Perhaps a thought might enter someone's head that perhaps the oil could be RECOVERED......
 
"you jes' go owt der whar this stuff is and blow this stuff into it..."

You gotta love it!!

To redneck southern boys come up with a simple and relatively viable solution....hell yeah!!!!:thumbsup::dancer01:

New slogan: "We from the South and we're here to help!":D:thumbsup:

this could have deeper reaching implications as well.

1) Instead of having to buy and disperse this expensive sorbent material in the water, buy the hay and grass from local farmers and lawncare/landscaping companies. Keeps the $$$ coming into the community:thumbsup:

2) Hire the fishing teams that are now being prevented from fishing due to the NMF bans, to disperse and retrieve this stuff:thumbsup:
Let BP pay them as well for thier time and boats...$$$ keeps the industry alive until things are back to normal!

3) Burn the crap for energy, maybe reducing energy costs? Or maybe as Rich said, find a way to recover the crude after it's recovered?

4) Pay the feckers for thier common sense!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Hope somebody listens to them?
 
And the next complaint will be that doing this will create a shortage of hay for cattle, etc. The answer to that is...use all the grasses that grow on the interstates/turnpikes medians and right of ways! They usually just mow it down anyway, why not put it to use! Bale it or roll it....by the way, C.W. Roberts is a paving contractor here in north Florida. From all I know of him he's a stand-up guy.
 
85vette said:
And the next complaint will be that doing this will create a shortage of hay for cattle, etc. The answer to that is...use all the grasses that grow on the interstates/turnpikes medians and right of ways! They usually just mow it down anyway, why not put it to use! Bale it or roll it....by the way, C.W. Roberts is a paving contractor here in north Florida. From all I know of him he's a stand-up guy.
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:toetap05::toetap05:There you go thinking logically again!
 
Shadow said:
Apparently, according to the Capt., there's no oil shoing up in the keys (yet) and the "tar balls" everyone is screaming about, have been washing up regularly down there for decades:yesnod:
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I remember going down to the Keys as a kid and finding one. Yea, don't try picking it up.
 
I was listening to the USCG report yesterday and they said the tar balls were definately NOT from the spill. Most likely from tankers pumping thier bilges or other sources, but not the spill.:thumbsup:
 
Heck, I remember as a kid my mom yelling at us kids in Ocean City, MD for stepping on tar balls. I sure hope that this oil spill doesn't turn the Gulf of Mexico into the world's largest tarpit.
 
Looks like there has been ten times the amount of oil coming out of that hole than BP has told us. The damage long term will be unreal.
 
Now to add more fire to the mix. Looks like we could see some type of blowup getting it's act together around Cuba in the next 7 days or so and could get into the gulf.

Unlike last year, we have warmer than normal water temps around Cuba and the islands also the wind shear that tore everything that tried to pop up last year will be almost gone. With our luck now that there is oil in the gulf we will see a early TS or Hurricane to stir the oil pot this year.

This storm season will be a horse of a diff color compared to last seaon.
 
CHASZ51 said:
Looks like there has been ten times the amount of oil coming out of that hole than BP has told us. The damage long term will be unreal.
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So instead of a measly 210,000 gallons of oil per day, it is actually 2,100,000 gallons??? :eek:

Luckily (I guess) oil is lighter than water otherwise the entire Gulf of Mexico would have all of the water displaced by oil by the time this is over with.

Wait till the waterspouts associated with heavy storms begin picking up the oil and slinging it all over the place. Could you imagine the picture it would present to see one of those aflame? Would look like "end of the world" stuff, for certain....

Stock the freezer with fresh Florida seafood, gents. Might be a long time before you see that again...
 
Rich Z said:
So instead of a measly 210,000 gallons of oil per day, it is actually 2,100,000 gallons??? :eek:

Luckily (I guess) oil is lighter than water otherwise the entire Gulf of Mexico would have all of the water displaced by oil by the time this is over with.

Wait till the waterspouts associated with heavy storms begin picking up the oil and slinging it all over the place. Could you imagine the picture it would present to see one of those aflame? Would look like "end of the world" stuff, for certain....

Stock the freezer with fresh Florida seafood, gents. Might be a long time before you see that again...
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On the news it has shown video of thick nasty raw crude deep in the grass marsh's already. It's gonna be the end for alot of people and maybe BP after they pay maybe trillions for the after effects and clean up.
 
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