• Got the Contributing Memberships stuff finally worked out and made up a thread as a sort of "How-To" to help people figure out how to participate. So if you need help figuring it out, here's the thread you need to take a look at -> http://www.corvetteflorida.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3581 Thank you, everyone! Rich Z.

The garage build.

Well, I had to move the delivery date of the building back to November 4th. Just can't seem to get things nailed down for the concrete and building erection. I've got all kinds of phone calls in to concrete people. I guess the faltering economy hasn't had any effect on them and they are too busy to take on something else.

But at least I have another month to get my sheet all together.

And at least it likely won't interfere with our St. Augustine trip later in October like I was afraid was going to happen.
 
Well, I went to the Planning and Zoning office today to see if they needed to make any sort of indication on my permit from them concerning my being listed as a tree farm. I brought along all the documentation I had found on the 'net about this topic, and the girls conferred with someone in the back office. They said I didn't even need that particular permit, and matter of fact would be refunding the fee I paid for it. Well how about that?

I then went to the building permit office to talk to the building inspector, but apparently he was tied up with something there. The girls there said I could go ahead and email him, so that's what I have done. All with quotes and webpage links.

So we'll see what comes of this. One of the girls in the permit office said that she thought I needed to get some sort of permit from the State Agricultural Dept., but she wasn't sure. Not that this would make any sense to me. Excuse me? I need to get a permit to NOT get a permit? :lmao:

As for the concrete slab, I'm waiting on quotes from three different people right now. Another guy said he could start tomorrow, but he is the one who doesn't have a license, and quite certainly does not have insurance, so I'm really not too interested in dealing with him. But I'm not burning any bridges quite yet with him.

Oh well.....
 
Well, now I apparently have one of the county commissioners on my side. Just got off the phone with Dr. Kessler and he asked me to send him the info and he would forward that all to the county attorneys to have them look into it. He seemed to feel it's all pretty cut and dried. County officials cannot circumvent state statutes.

But we'll see how this all plays out.
 
Supposed to get the concrete done this upcoming week. Guy by the name of Alan Dunlap. Since he is going to do the foundation first by itself, then after the building is erected, do the apron, I'm thinking it's going to be around December before I can actually put anything in the building. He didn't want to do the apron at the same time because the equipment needed to erect the building might crack the apron during the erection.
 
Rich Z said:
Supposed to get the concrete done this upcoming week. Guy by the name of Alan Dunlap. Since he is going to do the foundation first by itself, then after the building is erected, do the apron, I'm thinking it's going to be around December before I can actually put anything in the building. He didn't want to do the apron at the same time because the equipment needed to erect the building might crack the apron during the erection.
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Sounds like he's erring on the side of caution, which in THIS case, is a GOOD thing.:thumbsup::thumbsup: Besides Rich, with something like this.........you want it done right the first time. Maybe some headaches now will prevent some migranes later. :yesnod:
Andy :wavey:
 
Rich Z said:
Supposed to get the concrete done this upcoming week. Guy by the name of Alan Dunlap. Since he is going to do the foundation first by itself, then after the building is erected, do the apron, I'm thinking it's going to be around December before I can actually put anything in the building. He didn't want to do the apron at the same time because the equipment needed to erect the building might crack the apron during the erection.
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Sounds like he knows what he's doing. How did his price compare to the first guy?
 
Rich Z said:
He didn't want to do the apron at the same time because the equipment needed to erect the building might crack the apron during the erection.
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Smart man. When they built my house they poured the driveway before the house was completed. The contractor told the subs to use stay off of it, but the sheetrock company drove their truck on it and cracked it. They had to reimburse the contractor for cutting and patching the driveway. It probably cost them more than what they sold the sheetrock for! And now, 12 years later, the driveway has cracks anyway!
 
Concrete is going to crack no matter what. If you're lucky, you can make it crack where you want it to.
 
gsdave said:
Sounds like he knows what he's doing. How did his price compare to the first guy?
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He was within a couple hundred dollars. I told him about the experience with Mike Smith, so he's not likely to try to pull the same thing.
 
The concrete guy and crew showed up today and got right down to business. That is until they hit the "stump from hell" that was right where the corner foundation footer pad needed to be. He was using a backhoe and the deeper he dug trying to get underneath that darn stump, the BIGGER that stump appeared to be. I was beginning to think it went all the way down to China. He dug around it as far as he could go with his equipment and the best he could do trying to pull or push on it to get it loose was to make it move maybe a quarter of an inch. So I had to call Welch Land Clearing and ask if he could get this stump out for me. I watched the video of the guy tackling that tree, and it appeared the tree snapped off just below surface level and the guy just didn't realize there was a humongous stump still down there.

So Alan did as much of the digging and frame up as he could and left around 2:30 or so. Mr. Welch showed up about 10 minutes later, and within 15 minutes had the stump out of the ground and backfilled in the hole to pack it down nice and firm. Seemed pretty dicey there for a while. Believe me, that stump was HUGE! But in the video, the tree wasn't really anything that would have led anyone to believe what was underneath the soil. The guy did struggle with it for quite a while while the land clearing was going on, but still it was quite a surprise.

But in any event, that stump is out of the way, so Alan can come back tomorrow to finish up the framing. Then I need to get the termite guys out here to spray before the other stuff can do down on the ground.
 
How deep was it and how well did they compact the backfill? You may want to do a little extra compaction if you can, because it is at a corner and you could get some settlement.
 
mickeystoysz16 said:
How deep was it and how well did they compact the backfill? You may want to do a little extra compaction if you can, because it is at a corner and you could get some settlement.
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The guy pounded it down at several layers using the bucket from the backhoe. It was shaking the ground, so I think he packed it down pretty well. At least I hope so.... I really don't know what more I could do about it at this point anyway.
 
Here's a short video showing that stump I mentioned earlier....


The concrete has been poured and is now hardening off before the building arrives on 11/04. Not quite 30 days, but close enough. After the building is erected, then Allen Dunlap will come back and put in the apron for me in front of the building. After that, all I need to get done is the electrical work.

Getting there.......
 
OK, so maybe I'm just picky about such things, but I just measure the outside edges of my "4 inch" slab and I am only measuring 3.5 inches thick. Did I get short-changed a half inch of concrete? :shrug01:
 
85vette said:
Have you measured a 2x4 lately? Probably the same principle.
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Hmm, well I wish I had known that when I wrote out the check. If 4 inches is really 3.5 inches, then the $8,000 payment should really be $7,000. :lmao:
 
85vette said:
Have you measured a 2x4 lately? Probably the same principle.
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For 2x4's yes for concrete NO!!!!!!!! Even driveways are 4" thick your yours is going to have a building on it with a permanent dead load that you foundation needs to support and distubute. I would recommend having the building engineer review the calculations you may have a problem. If the plans called specifcally 4" of concrete, and your slab is only 3.5 your concrete contractor screwed you and pocketed the difference. This is common contractor practice to short owner on materials and still charge full price thinking no one noticed or knows any better. My guess is that you don't have the right amount of steel reinforcement either unless an inspector checked it before it was poured.
 
Well this is a fine kettle of fish.... Just got a call today from a guy who does building erections to let me know that he got a call from G&L asking him to take over the erection of my building because they are closing their doors.

On top of that, Friday I got an email from SteelMax telling me that the louvers will be delayed being delivered for a week after the building is supposed to get here. Now I can't figure out why that would be since the garage was originally supposed to be delivered on 10/07, so one would think those louvers would have been available back then.

I dunno.... maybe I should just say to hell with the garage and convert that slab to a roller skating rink for Connie.... :banghead:
 
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