• Got the Contributing Memberships stuff finally worked out and made up a thread as a sort of "How-To" to help people figure out how to participate. So if you need help figuring it out, here's the thread you need to take a look at -> http://www.corvetteflorida.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3581 Thank you, everyone! Rich Z.

Will someone please talk me out of this....

Yeah man!!

I thought I would capture this video, as I have actually been talking to Tommy at Anger Management Racing about getting the STS kit from him.

 
TwistedFun said:
in case you want a motorcycle i have a beautiful ducati 916 i will sell you. lol
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I l o v e the Ducatis. :thumbsup: They make some sweet bikes. Maybe later down the road when I sell this bike I’ll pick me up a Ducati. ;)

I just sold my other bike so I only have this one left. It's a stretched and lowered ZX7R.
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Back to the TT…… Please God, I’ll be good and I wont do anything from the dark side again if you just let me get a TT for X-mas. :nopity:
 
Well....... I did it. I just pulled the trigger on the STS twin turbo kit. :eek:

Now I just have to get it installed when it shows up.

I'll tell you though, you guys are absolutely no use whatsoever for talking a guy OUT of stuff like this..... :toetap05:
 
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Now, the wait begins for it to get in and then you know you have to keep us posted on the install.
Now, take the wife out for a nice dinner :yesnod:
 
TwistedFun said:
get the turbos, you can always sell the lg's. i might even be interested in buying them from you.
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Rich Z said:
Sorry, but I just can't see doing that. I'm not looking for any more power then my stock lower end can handle, so a s/c should likely do fine in that department. Plus I paid someone to put on those headers and will certainly have to pay someone to take them off. Hell, I had those pipes ALL Jet Hot coated too, which wasn't cheap.

So I would have to say that whatever I get has to be compatible with my current exhaust system as a minimum criteria.

Besides, I definitely don't want to have to explain to the wife WHY those expensive headers I bought are now being taken off to add something that will make even less sense to her, as adding even MORE power....... :toetap05: THAT, my friend, would be one hell of a tough sell.....
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:shrug01: my dont we have some back peddling to do. lol congrats i think. i really hope this thing works for you very well. i am looking to do a H/C set up later on next year. i think a set of afr heads with one of the lg cams will get me right where i want to be. i am looking for the 430 to 450 rwhp range as a goal.
 
Superman would be proud and Spiderman would be speechless.
When you come down to Tampa for a show will you give me the honor to ride in your beast? No joke……. I call first dibs. :hehehe:

Congrats on the TTs and I hope the install is quick and easy. :thumbsup:
 
TwistedFun said:
:shrug01: my dont we have some back peddling to do. lol congrats i think. i really hope this thing works for you very well. i am looking to do a H/C set up later on next year. i think a set of afr heads with one of the lg cams will get me right where i want to be. i am looking for the 430 to 450 rwhp range as a goal.
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Where do you see back peddling? :rolleyes: The STS twin turbos mount at the rear of the car, basically replacing the mufflers. So I keep the headers in place.

Check out STS's website when you get a chance -> http://www.ststurbo.com/
 
Rich Z said:
Well....... I did it. I just pulled the trigger on the STS twin turbo kit. :eek:

Now I just have to get it installed when it shows up.

I'll tell you though, you guys are absolutely no use whatsoever for talking a guy OUT of stuff like this..... :toetap05:
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If you're anything like me, people talk to me 'til their blue in the face. I won't listen anyway! I tune 'em out.

Congrats!
 
The one thing that worries me about the underhood turbos is the amount of heat they are likely to add under the hood. That's the reason I got the headers Jet Hot coated, so they would help to keep the heat going out the pipes rather then under the hood. And yeah, those turbos WILL get hot. So anything near them will get hot as well. If they are near the starter, I would expect premature starter failures.

Just my opinion, for certain, but I just don't like anything that will ADD heat if I can avoid it.

There is some stuff on STS's website addressing this issue, which I found interesting. Taking it with a grain of salt, of course, because it IS sales literature, but it really does make some sense.

Another benefit of the rear mounted turbos is weight distribution. With the front mounts, ALL the weight goes on the front end. With the rear mounts, the turbos put about half the weight on the rear, and the intercooler puts some on the front. If you HAVE to add weight, I would prefer to not have it all put on the front end, like ALL the other blower options would do.

Not saying I made the right choice, but all things considered, this STS thingie looked to be about the best for me, all things considered.

BTW, take a look at this photo of an underhood turbo: :eek:
 

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The STS system works, but its not the most efficiant turbo setup IMO, simple logic wont let me buy into it. turbo's need heat, exhaust temp will cool alot by the time it gets back there, as they cool, they also slow down. STS knows this and "solves" the problem by reducing the a/r on the turbine housing. now limiting the power it can make. then its needs to make its way back to the front. ofcoarse they claim there's no lag in the system. coming from N/A to an STS setup, you wont be able to tell the lag, but from an front mounted setup to rear u'll hate it. There's alot against the system from an efficient standpoint.
 
Well that could very well be, but so far, the feedback I have gotten from people who actually HAVE the STS systems has been 100 percent positive. I have had several people comment negatively on the THEORY behind the system, but none of them actually have tried it themselves prior to forming their opinions. Sometimes the proof just has to be in the pudding, I guess.

And in my opinion, it is not HEAT that moves the turbine, it is AIR PRESSURE that moves it. 100 cubic feet per minute of cold air is the same as 100 cubic feet per minute of hot air. It is just that in all applications I can think of heat is used simply to CREATE the air pressure needed to move the turbine.

I posted a thread in this forum about turbochargers that I found on Wikipedia. Makes for interesting reading. Of course, nothing is perfect, and as I found out, every single one of the power adders I looked at had drawbacks and compromises to deal with. And in my unbiased and uneducated opinion, this was the best system for me, based on what compromises I was willing to live with.

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I just wish I had anyone. (TT , supercharger, blower, or what every) :shrug01:

It is better to have any one of these systems then to not have one at all. :yesnod:

You’re going to be a very happy man. :D
 
Rich Z said:
Well that could very well be, but so far, the feedback I have gotten from people who actually HAVE the STS systems has been 100 percent positive. I have had several people comment negatively on the THEORY behind the system, but none of them actually have tried it themselves prior to forming their opinions. Sometimes the proof just has to be in the pudding, I guess.

And in my opinion, it is not HEAT that moves the turbine, it is AIR PRESSURE that moves it. 100 cubic feet per minute of cold air is the same as 100 cubic feet per minute of hot air. It is just that in all applications I can think of heat is used simply to CREATE the air pressure needed to move the turbine.

I posted a thread in this forum about turbochargers that I found on Wikipedia. Makes for interesting reading. Of course, nothing is perfect, and as I found out, every single one of the power adders I looked at had drawbacks and compromises to deal with. And in my unbiased and uneducated opinion, this was the best system for me, based on what compromises I was willing to live with.

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i think you have made a great choice with the sts system. lots of people will tell you about theory that do not have this system but everyone that has it always says "what turbo lag". i like the way the heat is the rear and not under the hood. turbo lag might be a problem if you are driving a ricer with a 4 banger or even a v6 but with the torque we already have with the z i dont see the lag if there is any being much of a problem. if anything it would be an advantage i would think because it gives you a chance to get the rubber hooked up as power builds. i didnt realize you could retain your headers with this system, i thought it came with its own exhaust set up for some reason, but that makes it even better if you get to keep the lg's. i checked out this system a little while back and if i were doing one this would be it.
 
Suicide King said:
I just wish I had anyone. (TT , supercharger, blower, or what every) :shrug01:

It is better to have any one of these systems then to not have one at all. :yesnod:

You’re going to be a very happy man. :D
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I'd take any of them too.
 
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