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Got the Contributing Memberships stuff finally worked out and made up a thread as a sort of "How-To" to help people figure out how to participate. So if you need help figuring it out, here's the thread you need to take a look at -> http://www.corvetteflorida.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3581 Thank you, everyone! Rich Z.
Xtreme Motorsports
- Thread starter Fatbum
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gmjunkie
Corvette,GM Classic Freak
If you can put a set of heads correctly on any engine in 5 minutes in or out of the vehicle or install a engine in the vehicle in a day, Call me toll free you have a job!! :thumbsup
877-677-2984 ext 5)Hows $1000. a week sound to start?? How are you at C3,C4 and C5 clutches,4x4 transfer cases and heater cores??:shrug01::shrug01::shrug01: Do you do any Frame,Suspension,Body,Paint or Alignment work??:shrug01::shrug01::shrug01:
:crazy03::crazy03::crazy03: Were going to make the Big Bucks!!:crazy03::crazy03::crazy03:
If you can put a set of heads correctly on any engine in 5 minutes in or out of the vehicle or install a engine in the vehicle in a day, Call me toll free you have a job!! :thumbsup
Hows $1000. a week sound to start?? How are you at C3,C4 and C5 clutches,4x4 transfer cases and heater cores??:shrug01::shrug01::shrug01: Do you do any Frame,Suspension,Body,Paint or Alignment work??:shrug01::shrug01::shrug01:
:crazy03::crazy03::crazy03: Were going to make the Big Bucks!!:crazy03::crazy03::crazy03:
I don't think you are picking up on the association. I'm not talking about putting springs, retainers, locks etc. Just throwing on the gaskets and putting the heads on, putting the manifold in place and bolting it down. Really its that simple. Why you are trying to blow what I said out of proportion is beyond me, but judging by your first post, this is just how you act, probably because you think you are some internet warrior with something to prove, or maybe because you have a blind faith in Chris, and because he is a sponsor, feel the need to lead the attack. Good for you, your bias and ignorance is hiding in plain site. You would have to be a half eaten carrot not to be able to do that around that time frame.
Sure though, ignore all the horrible atrocities that have been committed and try and pick apart my post, if thats the best you got, i suggest you gtfo.
I know around 50 guys who would be willing to take you on a cash bet over that naive engine statement. You are obviously clueless to what exactly goes on... putting a longblock in a car doesn't take that long. Even if you went extremely slow, it shouldn't take you more then 3 days all by yourself. Seriously.
gmjunkie
Corvette,GM Classic Freak
:lmao::lmao::lmao: Talk about Naive,I'd Look in a mirror if I were you!!:thumbsup:
You obviously had 1 or more of the 50 work on your car before Chris got stuck with it!!:thumbsup:
There is more to it than just slapping a couple gaskets on it and tightening a few bolts,You or any of your 50 can't do it RIGHT in 5 minutes!! You been watching too much Back Yard Mechanic!!
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Shadow
New member
FB...one last time my friend (and I'm only doing this because the administrator doesn't like "vacations".!)
KNOCK OFF THE ATTACKS!!
You are alienating almost everyone that posts in this thread, including me.
You're upset and it shows in your thread posts.
I/We know you've been waiting for months to get your car and I/We know that it's creating a hardship for you and your family with transportation.
However, there's little you can do except (as I've said before) set a plan and follow it.
If you do that, then yes, things WILL work themselves out. It'll just take some (more) time.
You may have to give Chris a time line to crap or get off the pot.
You may have to go get your car.
You may have to take Chris to civil court.
You may have to seek criminal charges (if appropriate)
You may have to file complaints with the appropriate entities.
See a redundant theme here?
YOU "may" have to do a lot of things, but in the end, you'll have your car, and possibly your money + some, back. That's the way things work and you can't do anything legally to change them.
Coming on here, insulting people you don't know, and talking trash is NOT going to help you.
FYI-Jessie (aka: Junkman) is about as knowledgeable regarding these matters as any senior mechanic you'll ever know + some. This is what he does. Believe me, there's more to placing a set of heads and an intake on than just bolting it down. To do it "correctly" is not a 5 minute job.
Brad is a professional educator by trade.
Your comments as well as your vague attack on his charachter were not only out of line and uncalled for, but unwelcomed as well and will not be tolerated on this site!!:nonod:
And when I told you that things will correct themselves (or words to that effect), that's what I meant.
This is what I do for a living. Don't play in my sandbox son.
I understand fully how both the civil and criminal side of things work, what needs to be done and what you may have to do, to rectify the situation. Regardless, it WILL work out. One way or the other. It just takes time.
The time that has past, has past. There's nothing you can do to recover that and you have to move forward from here.
Stop assuming and trying to "what if" everything. This is pretty much a black and white scenario.
Fix my car in "X" days, and return it to me in operable condition, or return it and any unused portion of my retainer (with the appropriate documentation-reciepts from the purchase of the motor, parts, supplies, labor hours, etc.) to me immediately.
It's just about as simple as that!!!!
Fail to do either or both, and I'll take the "appropriate actions" against you.
Now that wasn't difficult was it?
And that's the way it works. We have a tendancy to over complicate matters (attorney's are good at that:lmao
Remember K.I.S.S. (not the rock band!) and you'll get it done much quicker:thumbsup:
Now, as to the motor issue:
Can you simply bolt another engine into an already cleared out engine bay in one day? Sure you can if it's an identical engine and there are no mods to do.
I've done' it many many times as a kid with the motor hanging from an old oak tree on a block & tackle and the car on jacks and blocks
Getting it running and tuned and ready to roll, is quite another story.
Also, we weren't running a commercial shop, trying to get cars in and out, answering phones (assuming someone actually answers there?) and we had a minimum of 2 people working on it.
That's not the case here.
You even mentioned in one post that "you" tried to make the repair and couldn't, then took it to another shop for the repair who also could not get it corrected, then finally to Chris? Is that correct?
I'm NOT defending Chris, just trying to get my time line correct. If you couldn't do the work, and a second shop couldn't do the work, then it's obviously not as "simple" as it sounds
Has this entire mess taken too long to resolve? IMO, yes.
Can it still be salvaged? Again, IMO, yes; however, COMMUNICATION is going to be necessary from Xtreme before that can be accomplished.
If that does not occur, as I said above, your options are limited and I suggest you get to your "list" pronto!
You might also learn to read sarcasm over the net:yesnod:
Brad was offering an opinion on the matter, and Jessie (Junk) was being sarcastic. If you knew him, you'd understand:thumbsup:
Neither deserved the response you gave them.
Debate is fine. Personal attacks will again, not be tolerated (on either side).
Any more personal attacks will be "dealt with appropriately."
(you're getting a hell of a lot more latitude here than you'd get most places-Please take advantage of that.)
Would someone from Xtreme please call this boy and let's get this mess moving forward.
Meanwhile, folks, lets keep this thread on topic and move forward from here.
Thanks...and Merry Christmas!
KNOCK OFF THE ATTACKS!!
You are alienating almost everyone that posts in this thread, including me.
You're upset and it shows in your thread posts.
I/We know you've been waiting for months to get your car and I/We know that it's creating a hardship for you and your family with transportation.
However, there's little you can do except (as I've said before) set a plan and follow it.
If you do that, then yes, things WILL work themselves out. It'll just take some (more) time.
You may have to give Chris a time line to crap or get off the pot.
You may have to go get your car.
You may have to take Chris to civil court.
You may have to seek criminal charges (if appropriate)
You may have to file complaints with the appropriate entities.
See a redundant theme here?
YOU "may" have to do a lot of things, but in the end, you'll have your car, and possibly your money + some, back. That's the way things work and you can't do anything legally to change them.
Coming on here, insulting people you don't know, and talking trash is NOT going to help you.
FYI-Jessie (aka: Junkman) is about as knowledgeable regarding these matters as any senior mechanic you'll ever know + some. This is what he does. Believe me, there's more to placing a set of heads and an intake on than just bolting it down. To do it "correctly" is not a 5 minute job.
Brad is a professional educator by trade.
Your comments as well as your vague attack on his charachter were not only out of line and uncalled for, but unwelcomed as well and will not be tolerated on this site!!:nonod:
And when I told you that things will correct themselves (or words to that effect), that's what I meant.
This is what I do for a living. Don't play in my sandbox son.
I understand fully how both the civil and criminal side of things work, what needs to be done and what you may have to do, to rectify the situation. Regardless, it WILL work out. One way or the other. It just takes time.
The time that has past, has past. There's nothing you can do to recover that and you have to move forward from here.
Stop assuming and trying to "what if" everything. This is pretty much a black and white scenario.
Fix my car in "X" days, and return it to me in operable condition, or return it and any unused portion of my retainer (with the appropriate documentation-reciepts from the purchase of the motor, parts, supplies, labor hours, etc.) to me immediately.
It's just about as simple as that!!!!
Fail to do either or both, and I'll take the "appropriate actions" against you.
Now that wasn't difficult was it?
And that's the way it works. We have a tendancy to over complicate matters (attorney's are good at that:lmao
Remember K.I.S.S. (not the rock band!) and you'll get it done much quicker:thumbsup:
Now, as to the motor issue:
Can you simply bolt another engine into an already cleared out engine bay in one day? Sure you can if it's an identical engine and there are no mods to do.
I've done' it many many times as a kid with the motor hanging from an old oak tree on a block & tackle and the car on jacks and blocks
Getting it running and tuned and ready to roll, is quite another story.
Also, we weren't running a commercial shop, trying to get cars in and out, answering phones (assuming someone actually answers there?) and we had a minimum of 2 people working on it.
That's not the case here.
You even mentioned in one post that "you" tried to make the repair and couldn't, then took it to another shop for the repair who also could not get it corrected, then finally to Chris? Is that correct?
I'm NOT defending Chris, just trying to get my time line correct. If you couldn't do the work, and a second shop couldn't do the work, then it's obviously not as "simple" as it sounds
Has this entire mess taken too long to resolve? IMO, yes.
Can it still be salvaged? Again, IMO, yes; however, COMMUNICATION is going to be necessary from Xtreme before that can be accomplished.
If that does not occur, as I said above, your options are limited and I suggest you get to your "list" pronto!
You might also learn to read sarcasm over the net:yesnod:
Brad was offering an opinion on the matter, and Jessie (Junk) was being sarcastic. If you knew him, you'd understand:thumbsup:
Neither deserved the response you gave them.
Debate is fine. Personal attacks will again, not be tolerated (on either side).
Any more personal attacks will be "dealt with appropriately."
(you're getting a hell of a lot more latitude here than you'd get most places
-Please take advantage of that.)Would someone from Xtreme please call this boy and let's get this mess moving forward.
Meanwhile, folks, lets keep this thread on topic and move forward from here.
Thanks...and Merry Christmas!
Did you ever just think a moment that maybe, just maybe, you said or did something that just PISSED Chris off? You just might have a knack for doing that, you know? Heck, I have a PM from you where you told me "I actually think C5 Z06s are ugly as all get out lol." Well, bud, guess who HAS a C5 Z06 and kind of likes it? You probably didn't even realize that saying such a thing to an owner of a C5 Z06 MIGHT just piss them off, now did you?
It's entirely possible that you are just going around pissing off everyone and are clueless about this effect you have on other people. So perhaps it is time for you to just stop BLAMING everyone else for problems that might be of your own making.
So yeah, keep on trying to piss off Chris and he just might tell you to go piss up a rope and come get your car and be done with you. Lawyers be damned....
Shadow
New member
When i said failing to accomplish i was referring to brad who said it took him over a year himself.
We didnt know about the issues with the car unil after we had it at xtreme. It was shoddy install work but nothing that broke the bank or ruined the motor, just the old springs that were in the car. We had to pull a thread locked arp bolt out and chris had the springs removed by a head shop.
gmjunkie
Corvette,GM Classic Freak
Do I hear a AMEN Bro-thus and Siesta's???:shrug01:
I very well can see this happening!!:thumbsup:
Shadow
New member
...well....now we have some forward momentum.....:thumbsup:
gsdave
engineer
FB did nothing but praise Chris on several message boards with complete confidence. Even after major engine damage the day after he picks the car up, he said nothing bad about him that I saw. Well until now when he's been without his car for far too long.
He definitely rubs people the wrong way. But none of you were concerned about this when he first posted on this site praising XTREME and running down a shop that myself and many many others have had good luck with. No one that I recall was interested in getting the whole story or even cared at that point.
Shadow
New member
I don't think that's the case sir.:NoNo:
I'm not sure what was there to care about if he didn't feel a need at the time to complain?
Should we ask everyone that praises a shop to find something "wrong?" I don't quite get the argument?
I for one, as did several others, requested he either put up or shut up regarding details of his alleged problems w/Xtreme.
There have been PM's and phone calls as well....believe me!
Information has been shared and resolutions sought.
As for his concerns with another shop, I'd have to go back and look at the thread (which I don't have time to do at the moment, but will later if you'll please send me a link) and see what was said.
It's always possible that I missed it.
IMO-if you're going to say something negative about a shop or an individual, you better damned well be ready and able to back it up:yesnod:
My Bad...sorry if I missed it.
Gordon
gsdave
engineer
Nothing wrong at all with giving kudos to a shop. I was referring to him running down the other shop where no one cared for any details. I don't recall anyone being concerned about details at all. It was in FB's intro, then moved to the Board of Inquiry.
That's just the way things are... Some things will catch someone's interest, and others won't. Businesses that someone has had personal experience with just naturally catch the attention more directly then discussions about someone you haven't had any contact with. :shrug01:
Z06 Rocket
New member
One old saying that comes to mind is:
"Nothing is impossible to the man who doesn't have to do it himself"
"Nothing is impossible to the man who doesn't have to do it himself"