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Your Impression of LEO

What is your "General Impression" of LEO

  • They are usually pretty fair

    Votes: 16 84.2%

  • Most are corrupt & show favoritism to other LEO

    Votes: 3 15.8%
  • Total voters
    19
I've also heard it came from "civilian on patrol" as opposed to military on patrol which also happened WAYYYYYYYY back in the day.....
Andy :wavey:
 
I travel all over the country and I am getting older but I see a lack of respect on both sides .I'm seeing more Leos with an attitude which goes back to poor training .I see more citizens which want to give lip when they know there wrong .This is again the results of poor training (by parents).

The last two ticket I received we're totally wrong .Both times I was calm courteous stated my plea and smiled listened to the officers mouth .I said nothing ,took the ticket and went to court .Both tickets we're tossed out after costing me a full days worth of my time.Both occurrences happened in the past couple of years in Maine .

Am I bitter ?Damn right ,If I saw an officer in distress I would not stop .

None of this would have happened ten years ago.
 
vett boy said:
I travel all over the country and I am getting older but I see a lack of respect on both sides .I'm seeing more Leos with an attitude which goes back to poor training .I see more citizens which want to give lip when they know there wrong .This is again the results of poor training (by parents).

The last two ticket I received we're totally wrong .Both times I was calm courteous stated my plea and smiled listened to the officers mouth .I said nothing ,took the ticket and went to court .Both tickets we're tossed out after costing me a full days worth of my time.Both occurrences happened in the past couple of years in Maine .

Am I bitter ?Damn right ,If I saw an officer in distress I would not stop .

None of this would have happened ten years ago.
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vett boy, I've been thinking about your post and I wasn't going to say anything but I just can't let it slide. Even if things went down as you say I am having a hard time believing that you would not assist a fellow human being that needed your help just because they were a LEO.

Many of my friends are LEO's, active and retired and not one of them is as you have described. And every damn one of them would put it all on the line for you. I hope you think long and hard about what you've posted.
 
Bob K said:
vett boy, I've been thinking about your post and I wasn't going to say anything but I just can't let it slide. Even if things went down as you say I am having a hard time believing that you would not assist a fellow human being that needed your help just because they were a LEO.

Many of my friends are LEO's, active and retired and not one of them is as you have described. And every damn one of them would put it all on the line for you. I hope you think long and hard about what you've posted.
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Well it doesn't surprise me that you and others are shocked but it's the way I honestly feel .A lot depends on the circumstance and under the heat of the moment I might assist but I'd say no and that doesn't bother my conscience at all.
 
vett boy said:
Well it doesn't surprise me that you and others are shocked but it's the way I honestly feel .A lot depends on the circumstance and under the heat of the moment I might assist but I'd say no and that doesn't bother my conscience at all.
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I just asked if you would please think about it. That's why I thought awhile before posting cause I don't want any hard feelings. I consider everyone on here to be like a neighbor rather than just someone posting into outer space. We've all been on those sites where just about everyone posts just to hear themselves talk and no one gives a rip what they say.

I can honestly say in over 50 yrs of driving I only remember one prick and I beat him in court. Even his partner who showed up for the hearing said the charge was unjustified. I have had maybe more than my share of tickets but I earned all of them. :rofl1:
 
LEO's certainly deserve our respect...they are just like you and I...just like everywhere else, you will alway find a few bad apples here and there...
 
vett boy said:
I travel all over the country and I am getting older but I see a lack of respect on both sides .I'm seeing more Leos with an attitude which goes back to poor training .I see more citizens which want to give lip when they know there wrong .This is again the results of poor training (by parents).

The last two ticket I received we're totally wrong .Both times I was calm courteous stated my plea and smiled listened to the officers mouth .I said nothing ,took the ticket and went to court .Both tickets we're tossed out after costing me a full days worth of my time.Both occurrences happened in the past couple of years in Maine .

Am I bitter ?Damn right ,If I saw an officer in distress I would not stop .

None of this would have happened ten years ago.
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I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but don't label us all the same. Like any other profession, there will be the bad apples. Make a complaint at the officer's agency (after you beat the charge in court). This will help them identify those that need to be "counseled" and perhaps receive remedial training.
 
85vette said:
I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but don't label us all the same. Like any other profession, there will be the bad apples. Make a complaint at the officer's agency (after you beat the charge in court). This will help them identify those that need to be "counseled" and perhaps receive remedial training.
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I sent a letter As you've recommended and received a form reply .Maine use to have troopers right out of the pages of Mayberry RFD .Polite ,down to earth,common sense and if you got a ticket you smiled and knew you deserved it .No I don't judge all alike and as a matter of fact I met a DOT officer in North Carolina .I was on my way to Junkies house and the officer and I had a long discussion .When I was all squared away he shock my hand said it was a pleasure and I was on my way.(no ticket)
 
vett boy said:
I sent a letter As you've recommended and received a form reply .Maine use to have troopers right out of the pages of Mayberry RFD .Polite ,down to earth,common sense and if you got a ticket you smiled and knew you deserved it .No I don't judge all alike and as a matter of fact I met a DOT officer in North Carolina .I was on my way to Junkies house and the officer and I had a long discussion .When I was all squared away he shock my hand said it was a pleasure and I was on my way.(no ticket)
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I hate form letters!:mad:

Hey Chief/Sheriff, here's a novel thought!

How about we take a moment, to have some secretary at least look busy and type out a dictated letter!:rolleyes:
Then you can get off your pompous ass and sign the mother****** and send it to the citizen.
At least make them feel like you G.A.S.!

Or hell, have the division (IAD) director do it, who cares? As long as someone does it.
I usually toss form letters and start making phone calls.

Anyway, I'm happy you at least had a positive experience with DOT. Sometimes those guys can be more of a PITA than a regular street cop.

When it comes to tickets, when I was a motor officer, I would generally write tickets in a 3 to 1 ratio.
3 warnings to every 1 ticket.

It kept the "stats' up for the brass.
Showed I was actually doing something, and gave me the opportunity to examine a driver, vehicle, etc. a little closer for less reason:thumbsup:

I wouldn't write a ticket for 8 over, but if I wanted to check something out, it was as good a reason as any and the written warning documented the stop:)
 
Shadow said:
I hate form letters!:mad:


When it comes to tickets, when I was a motor officer, I would generally write tickets in a 3 to 1 ratio.
3 warnings to every 1 ticket.

It kept the "stats' up for the brass.
Showed I was actually doing something, and gave me the opportunity to examine a driver, vehicle, etc. a little closer for less reason:thumbsup:

I wouldn't write a ticket for 8 over, but if I wanted to check something out, it was as good a reason as any and the written warning documented the stop:)
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^ What he said!:thumbsup:
 
I heard rumor that the COP was short for COPPER, the material the badges were made of in the early years waaaaaaay back when.
 
Kap142 said:
Just a couple of short points if I may.

1) Having spent my entire career in Law Enforcement for a good sized agency and having interaction with many agencies all across the country I have NEVER met a corrupt LEO. Have officers,deputies/troopers made mistakes that cost them their jobs or careers? Yes they have.

2) Professional curtesy to other officers is not a given. I remember giving a ticket to an NYPD because an attitude about being exempt or above the law. It was his attitude that got him the ticket (just as with anyone I ever stopped). I was never a "big on traffic unit" but if faced with an obvious infraction I would work them as necessary and with all the curtesy I was allowed by the driver.

3) Have I ever shown professional curtesy to another officer, yes. We walked in the same dangerous shoes and pursued through the same dangerous streets and gone through the same dangerous doors after people who would take our life with no concern for us or our families.

4) What you say about attitude of officers is a bit misguided. Most (not all) are truly super people. Take them out of uniform and get to know them and you'll probably like what you find. Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. Were their LEO's I didn't care for, yes. Were their ego's, yes. Just don't use too broad of a brush.

Just my observations.:thumbsup:
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I'm was wondering when SHADOW was going to pipe in...:hehehe:..
 
Kap142 said:
Just a couple of short points if I may.

1) Having spent my entire career in Law Enforcement for a good sized agency and having interaction with many agencies all across the country I have NEVER met a corrupt LEO. Have officers,deputies/troopers made mistakes that cost them their jobs or careers? Yes they have.

2) Professional curtesy to other officers is not a given. I remember giving a ticket to an NYPD because an attitude about being exempt or above the law. It was his attitude that got him the ticket (just as with anyone I ever stopped). I was never a "big on traffic unit" but if faced with an obvious infraction I would work them as necessary and with all the curtesy I was allowed by the driver.

3) Have I ever shown professional curtesy to another officer, yes. We walked in the same dangerous shoes and pursued through the same dangerous streets and gone through the same dangerous doors after people who would take our life with no concern for us or our families.

4) What you say about attitude of officers is a bit misguided. Most (not all) are truly super people. Take them out of uniform and get to know them and you'll probably like what you find. Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. Were their LEO's I didn't care for, yes. Were their ego's, yes. Just don't use too broad of a brush.

Just my observations.:thumbsup:
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Ken, Shadow (et al of the LEO world) my friends'...we're not worthy!!:thankyou2::IThankYou::hurray::notworthy:
 
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