• Got the Contributing Memberships stuff finally worked out and made up a thread as a sort of "How-To" to help people figure out how to participate. So if you need help figuring it out, here's the thread you need to take a look at -> http://www.corvetteflorida.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3581 Thank you, everyone! Rich Z.

Adam's Polishes Holiday Sale

MADN3SS said:
I've been on these forums for about a year and a half. I've NEVER seen anyone post a question as to what's in any product, whether it's Adam's, Zaino, Meguiar's, etc.
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I agree, but as I said, call or email Adam, he can talk wax with you for hours im sure.
 
Flash man said:
Hey Adam,

I have another question that you can ask your manufacturer. What is the refractive index of your detail spray on a 32% brinx scale? Still waiting to hear a response from you.

Joe- Flash man:)
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What a laff. It is quite obvious what this thread has turned into. It started out as a thread by Scott trying to pass information to other members about his experience dealing with Adams. He felt he wanted to pass on a pleasent experience he had and where other forum members could buy the products he used at a holiday savings. Then the thread was hijacked by flashman to try and deflect the positive responses for Adams products. Asking questions that probably one in a hundred thousand people might care about. Then tell how he is disappointed that Adams reps do not know the formula or contents of his products. Then to go on and say he has obtained a bottle of Adams product and he is going to conduct his own tests to determine its contents. Are you a chemist, do you have a degree in chemistry, do you have a turbo-charged Hewlet Packard Electro-chromatograph to conduct these tests ? (A little My Cousin Vinny humor). Gee I wonder how many people know the formula for McDonalds secret sauce.

"THE REFRACTIVE INDEX OF YOUR DETAIL SPRAY ON A 32% BRINX SCALE."

Ya, everyone wants to know the answer to that one. Bottom line here is even with the attempted hijacking, over 450 views of this thread allowing people to draw their own conclusions about Adams products and the way he conducts business and flashman's ways. Good job flashman, you have drawn more attention to Adam and his products than this thread would have ever drawn if you hadn't posted your questions.
 
Obviously the only importance to you is winning trophies at a car show. You or Adam have no answers to any of my questions. So, I have to believe that Adam has no knowledge of what is in the products that he sells. Its sounds to me like a big marketing promotion with no product information to the consumer. I have 30 years of detailing experience. I used to high speed buff and restore cars for a living. Now I just detail for fun. I manufacture my own spray wax and other detailing products. I know, and my sales people know what is in our products. If a customer has a question, its gets answered fast. I not only demonstrate my products but I also educate the customer as to what is in the product and what they are getting for thier money. I tell them why my product is superior over other detailing products. I am not putting down anyones products, and I bet Adams products work well. But, I can water down my Grape Gloss spray wax 3x and It will still work well but it will not protect and last as long.In other words, you want to buy a concentrated product, not a watered down product. I feel that product knowledge is very important. I have nothing more to say on this subject. I have proved my point here but disappointed about the outcome.


Joe- Flash Car Care Products
 
Flash man said:
Obviously the only importance to you is winning trophies at a car show. You or Adam have no answers to any of my questions. So, I have to believe that Adam has no knowledge of what is in the products that he sells. Its sounds to me like a big marketing promotion with no product information to the consumer. I have 30 years of detailing experience. I used to high speed buff and restore cars for a living. Now I just detail for fun. I manufacture my own spray wax and other detailing products. I know, and my sales people know what is in our products. If a customer has a question, its gets answered fast. I not only demonstrate my products but I also educate the customer as to what is in the product and what they are getting for thier money. I tell them why my product is superior over other detailing products. I am not putting down anyones products, and I bet Adams products work well. But, I can water down my Grape Gloss spray wax 3x and It will still work well but it will not protect and last as long.In other words, you want to buy a concentrated product, not a watered down product. I feel that product knowledge is very important. I have nothing more to say on this subject. I have proved my point here but disappointed about the outcome.


Joe- Flash Car Care Products
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Sorry I have never entered my car in any shows and have no trophys. Another incorrect assumption on your part. And you saying that Adam has no knowledge as to whats in his product, another assumption by you as you don't know him either. Maybe if you were a customer he would answer your question. All I care about is using products that work and customer service. After 30 years working at new car dealers I have known many new and used car reconditioners. Some good, some bad, some know how to use a buffer, some can burn thru an edge on a hood in a second. Your insinuating that Adams products are watered down by your last post here, prove it. I have never used your products, or even heard of them before so I will offer no point of view on them, but if memory serves me right I didn't see you on the stage at Barrett-Jackson while the Olds Concept Car went thru at a record price, but I did see Adam Pitale there with his products.
 
:dueling: Is it ok to come out yet? :hide:
Interesting Thread to say the least!:munching_out:

~Ray:thumbsup:
 
Brian@Adams said:
I agree, but as I said, call or email Adam, he can talk wax with you for hours im sure.
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Joe, did you call him? like I said, hes in Boston doing a demo for 150 plus people on his products and doesnt have internet access. So unless you have at least made an attempt to get your answers directly from the source rather than just open the door and scream your questions out into the silence, I kindly ask that you not detract from our holiday promotion. Feel free to start your own thread with your own holiday promotion.

thank you and have a super holiday!
 
I would like to apologize to most of the members on this board. I thought I was passing on good information to fellow Vette owners. I just tried to give you my opinion of some Car Care Products (Adam's) that were new to me and I felt were better than what I was previously using (Zaino) and the amazing service that I received from Adam, himself, and a couple of his local reps (Brad and Dale). I did not realize, nor did I want this thread to turn into a pissing contest.

Flash Man - obviously you can try to market your products as you see fit, but to try to call out the sponsor of this portion of our site, I personally believe was un-professional. I may be the only one that feels this way, but this is America, and you normally get to do what you want as long as you stay within the confines of the law. I also told you that I was an opened minded person and would allow you to show me what your products can do. I offered my car for you to test on, which by the way, Adam had no problem demonstrating his products on my '04 Z06 Z16. I think that was a generous offer since I don't know you, nor do I know your products. But the silence to my offer was deafening!

I have chewed on this thread more times than I care to think about, I have decided that I am not interested in your products and I certainly would not let you touch any of my Vettes. You may have a great product, but your marketing strategy is not palatable to me. So I guess I will just keep being happy with Adam's products, his unquestioned service, and his incomparable guarantee! It is my money and I will spend it as I see fit.

Excuse me while I leave my computer for a while to get the bad taste of this thread out of my mouth. BTW, I am going out to my garage and vent some frustration by detailing my '01 Vert with my new Adam's products!
 
You know I love everyone here, but Nytro, and Rich427, you guys seem to be off base a little.

I havn't seen Flash Man do any marketing here at all. From what I'm seeing all he is doing is asking reasonable questions about Adams products, and not once has said anything bad about them.

Flash Man may be a little more direct in his questions and posts than most, but I havn't seen him market or advertise anything in here, or bad mouth any of Adams line.
 
Mekanic said:
You know I love everyone here, but Nytro, and Rich427, you guys seem to be off base a little.

I haven't seen Flash Man do any marketing here at all. From what I'm seeing all he is doing is asking reasonable questions about Adams products, and not once has said anything bad about them.

Mekanic,

You can believe what you want, but Flash Man's only reason for asking about Adam's formula in this thread is to compare it with his in a public forum. It is clear that FM thinks he makes a superior product and that's ok, he is entitled to his opinion. But his approach is negative marketing whether you want to admit it or not. So, I don't think I am off base at all. If the formula information was so important to FM and he was not trying to market his product verses Adam's in a thread that was clearly positive to Adam's products, he would have addressed his questions directly to Adam through his email or his cell phone number, which by the way, it appears that Adam freely gives out to anyone who wants it. Brian from Adams has given it to FM, and everyone else in this thread and has asked a couple of times whether he has contacted Adam directly. But no response.

In an earlier post of mine, I told FM that I was open minded about his products and I meant that. I offered to provide an '01 NBM Vert with 13,000 miles to someone I did not know, nor knew anything about his products, so that I could compare his product to Adam's. I also said that I would give him a fair review on this forum. He did not respond, not even a statement like, ...I'll pass on your offer!

This is what confirmed to me that all FM is trying to do is convince the people on this thread that Adam sells inferior products. Remember, he inferred that Adam's products maybe watered down! If you also notice, he has only talked about Adam's formulas. He has never addressed his own service or his guarantee and how they compare to Adam's.

So Mekanic, I don't think I am off base at all. I am not a fan of negative marketing, I never have and never will be. If Adam was using negative marketing tactics, I would stop using his products and go back to Zaino!

You have made a comment earlier that you have met FM and you are using his products and you like them. That is great for you! I am assuming that you have never used Adam's, so why don't you try them and compare to FM's products? You have nothing to lose. You can give the forum members a first hand comparison and if you don't like them, Adam will refund 110% of your purchase price and pay for what ever replacement product you chose. Like I said, you have nothing to lose!
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Bottom line, even if Adams products arent the best out there (which I think they are), Adam takes the time to talk to anyone and gives the best customer service of any place I have purchased anything from. So to me, that is worth its weight in gold.

I met with a group of Vette owners today for lunch and we talked car care products for a moment and they all commented on how much shine my car had and what I was using. I simply said Adams and they all said they were interested in trying some stuff out when their current supply of whatever they were using was out.
 
Rich427 said:
You have made a comment earlier that you have met FM and you are using his products and you like them. That is great for you! I am assuming that you have never used Adam's, so why don't you try them and compare to FM's products? You have nothing to lose. You can give the forum members a first hand comparison and if you don't like them, Adam will refund 110% of your purchase price and pay for what ever replacement product you chose. Like I said, you have nothing to lose!
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I'm not a big fan of negative marketing either, but we don't know FM's motives directly, as he has stated nothing yet other than he would like to know the formula, and he did infer that they may be watered down, but in all fairness, no one has argued with that claim yet.

I would like to try Adam's products to give it a head to head, with his guarantee it is no risk, but most of his kits are too pricey for me.

Maybe I'll order some of his spray wax, tire dressing, and wheel cleaner and see how it stacks up. Because those 3 products from FM are incredible.

Also, I'm sure if anyone in this thread asked, FM would be happy to tell the formula in grape gloss, just no one has asked.

If there are any Adam's users in the pasco/hernando/citrus area, I'd be happy to bring my Flash stuff and have a detailing party :D
 
Rich427 said:
I would like to apologize to most of the members on this board. I thought I was passing on good information to fellow Vette owners. I just tried to give you my opinion of some Car Care Products (Adam's) that were new to me and I felt were better than what I was previously using (Zaino) and the amazing service that I received from Adam, himself, and a couple of his local reps (Brad and Dale). I did not realize, nor did I want this thread to turn into a pissing contest.
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Rich, I just wanted to let you know that I did not start this thread because of your review of Adam's. If you look back at some of my posts here and on Z06Vette, I've been touting Adam's products and service for quite a while. I just thought I was passing on a good sale for those that want to experience the customer service and products of Adam's that we've been talking about here.

Scott
 
Scott,

I know that you were just doing what I was doing, which was trying to pass good information to the members of the site! You and I are on the same page.

Over the last few years, I was very happy with the finish that I received from my Zaino products. There were just a couple application quirks that I did not like, mixing Z2 with ZFX, did I mix too much because after mixing it has a shelf life, etc. But the finish product was great. Based on info I got here from Jeff, you and others, I tried Adam's stuff and found them to be as good or better than Sal Zaino's. But if I had to go back to the Z stuff, I would not be terribly upset. It is that good! It was the ease of application, the service they provide and the guarantee that sold me on Adam's!

I really don't care what people use on their cars, I just don't like to see people try to sell their products by attempting to knock or degrade others. As an example, I was in Carlisle one year (still being in Maryland, Spring, Fall, and Corvette Carlisle are rights of passage!) and was thinking of buying a lift for my 3 car garage at my current house. If you have never been, there are vendors galore for every car product you can think of. So, I went around to the lift vendors on the fairgrounds and was very disappointed in one vendors approach. I won't tell you their name in fear of another pissing contest starting, but you might characterize them as a "friend behind your house". I had always had a high regard for their product but when I talked to their sales rep all I heard was how terrible the products were of their competition. This immediately turned me off even though I know they have a good product and in this industry there are some poor products as well. I just would have preferred that he pitch me on the positives of his equipment.

Fortunately, I decided to build a new house in Florida and I put a four car garage on the Ft. Myers house, so the need for a lift went by the wayside (for the moment). But that sales pitch has never left me! If, or probably more likely, when I buy another Vette, the lift will come back into play and I promise you I will not select that particular vendor because of their marketing strategy! That is just my opinion and maybe I am the only one that feels that way.

I hope everyone is as happy with their car care products as I am with mine!

Thanks for sending the note Scott!

Rich
 
Wow, did we ruffle some feathers here! Mr. Flash, I would like to apologize, as we have clearly put you on the defensive. I did not intend to come to Corvette Florida and muddy the waters, nor do I wish to make an enemy. We are here because of an invitation by a member, who thought we could help other members achieve great results on their cars.

I hope the members reading use products that work the best for them. I've got close friends that prefer Zaino products to ours, and we still have dinner together! I've got other friends that use Optimum and Menzerna, and have urged me to develop a product to 'one-up' them. I can't ask anyone to use our products unless they prefer them to others on the market.

Please, accept my apology, as it has never been my intention to injure, nor put on the defense. If you would like to discuss formulations, it would be my pleasure. My cell is 310-344-4290, and email is adam@adamspolishes.com.

Again, I'm sorry to have put you on the defense, and hope to win your friendship, or at minimum, your respect.

Good evening, and please contact me at your convenience.

Sincerely,

-Adam
 
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