SUPERBOWL 43

[Z06 Rocket]

Hey don't get me wrong, I thought it was a great game. The Steelers came to win. I just think that the officials were more focused on the Cards than they needed to be. It's the freakin SuperBowl. To call "roughing the holder" when the guy was trying to block the kick is stretching it, then turn a blind eye to #92 with an Over the Top Personal Foul on the Cards player, he should have been ejected from the game.

He plowed the holder over... He didn't just bump into him, he literally flipped him over. The Cardinal player knew he was wrong, he never even looked back to argue anything about the penalty with the refs. He smirked and trotted to the sideline because he knew the flag was coming. Even the announcers were like "That was real stupid of him". What's the complaint about the refs on that one? It was a good call, even if the rule was stupid. The rule exists and they know it,,, as I have never seen that happen before in any game that I remember.

I don't know what play you are referring to with #92, but I saw a personal foul for "unnecessary roughness" I think it was called on a Steeler who went out of bounds into the Cards players while making a play ending stop. The two opposing players never went to the ground but only lightly shoved each other yet the Cards players (who were on the sidelines and not in the game) got all over him but the Steeler drew the flag and 15 yards..... How was that justified? I think the bad flag on that play negates the ad flag for roughing the QB that the Cards got for a hit on Ben. Those are about the only 2 bad flags I saw. They even got a good call on the holding in the end zone on the Steelers center who caused the safety by holding in the endzone. There were ALOT of stupid flags drwan by the Cards but I think it was emotions and nerves by the newer team (to the Super Bowl I mean) that caused them to make the flagrant "stupid" penalties. It was just a lack of concentration and discipline on their part.

JMHO

 

[LS2POWA]

Yeah that roughing the holder definitely needed to be called. Im not a Steeler fan, nor a Cards fan but cmon now that was a straight up im gonna rip your head off charge.

The warner fumble/pass was a crap call. The mans arm was still moving backwards and knocked forward after a 200+lb man hit him. Id love to see anyone try to pass a ball with their arm going backward while getting hit.

It was a good game. If people whine so much about the point difference I hate to see the excuses if the cards never got past the halftime score.

 

[THOR]

As I stated in my earlier post: the Pittsburgh Defense won the day especially with the 100 yard return touchdown!! I was really pulling for the Cardinals and I thought it was definitely one of the best Super Bowl games in history. The officials I give a C+ for trying but blowing a few calls.

 

[Mark Dalton]

It was a great game. Definitely not the blowout I was expecting. As far as penalties, I saw more stupid penalties on the part of the players rather than the refs. I think it was #69 for the cards who drew 3 holding penalties all by himself. And the steelers #92 standing over that guy and pushing him to the ground and knocking him over long after the play was dead, that's just dumb. Penalties aside though, it was exciting right down to the wire.:thumbsup:

 

[Z06 Rocket]

It was a great game. Definitely not the blowout I was expecting. As far as penalties, I saw more stupid penalties on the part of the players rather than the refs. I think it was #69 for the cards who drew 3 holding penalties all by himself.

That was because he had the guy who was voted NFL defensive player of the year charging past him. He had to hold him in order to keep Kurt Warner from getting smashed. If he didn't then the defender would get past him and possibly get in Warners head. Then Warner would have his throw off while fearing the defender sacking him.

And the steelers #92 standing over that guy and pushing him to the ground and knocking him over long after the play was dead, that's just dumb. Penalties aside though, it was exciting right down to the wire.:thumbsup:

Couldn't agree with you more! As a Steelers fan I could tell you that all of the people in the house who were watching the game (all Steelers fans of course at the party) we were pretty embarassed for the team. He was the touchdown difference to the game with his interception and 100 yard return, but later in the game he was a black eye on the team. STUPID STUPID PENALTY. Absolutely uncalled for.

 

[Mark Dalton]

That was because he had the guy who was voted NFL defensive player of the year charging past him. He had to hold him in order to keep Kurt Warner from getting smashed. If he didn't then the defender would get past him and possibly get in Warners head. Then Warner would have his throw off while fearing the defender sacking him.




Couldn't agree with you more! As a Steelers fan I could tell you that all of the people in the house who were watching the game (all Steelers fans of course at the party) we were pretty embarassed for the team. He was the touchdown difference to the game with his interception and 100 yard return, but later in the game he was a black eye on the team. STUPID STUPID PENALTY. Absolutely uncalled for.

Yup, I know they've got to hold to protect the QB. I'm sure Warner appreciated it too.:yesnod:

 

[Guro305]

Great game! Too bad the officials were Steelers fans, otherwise, the Cards might have won. I wonder where the fix came in? Vegas money, or Bailout money? Obama state or Mcain state?

Hmmmm..
Joe B.

Totally with you. If you bet the Cards and the points you won.

Absolutely the fix was in. I think it was the most despicable game I had ever seen and it makes me not want to watch football again. The Cards should've won......but didn't. I have to disagree however on the game. To me it was three of the most boring quarters of football I had ever seen as well. The only Superbowl more boring was the Colts vs. the Bears a couple years ago. I actually fell asleep during that game.

If not for the fourth quarter, the game would've been a total dog.

 

[Z06 Rocket]

To me it was three of the most boring quarters of football I had ever seen as well. If not for the fourth quarter, the game would've been a total dog.

I don't know what game you were watchinig..... clearly not the same one I watched....

 

[BESZ28]

Great game! Too bad the officials were Steelers fans, otherwise, the Cards might have won. I wonder where the fix came in? Vegas money, or Bailout money? Obama state or Mcain state?

Hmmmm..
Joe B.

what fix? the missed TD in the first quarter the steelers had or the bogus safety that gave the card the ball plus 2 points cmon wake up

 

[Guro305]

what fix? the missed TD in the first quarter the steelers had or the bogus safety that gave the card the ball plus 2 points cmon wake up

The whole game. What about all the bogus free yards the Stealers had in penalties where their guys were not even touched? Arizona 11 for 106 yards for a team that averaged 78 yards in penalites per game. Check the stats and you will see.

The Cards offense put up 407 total yards on the so-called "Steel Curtain."
Three major penalties in one drive that did influence the score of the game. Several bogus penalties including roughing the passer when he was never even touched and running into the holder? The holder? WTF? Do NFL refs just make the rules as they go along now? A holder, not the KICKER which is a penatly but the HOLDER. A holder that was not even grazed. And let's not forget Rooney's "wonderful" rant on how great NObama was at the end of the game.

Z06 Rocket, I'm sorry but if you thought that game was great, no offense but you haven't watched enough good football. Fourth Quarter was exciting, sure enough but the first three quarters of football sucked total a$s. I contemplated falling asleep like I did during Superbowl 41! What better way to keep the underdog from scoring then to keep their offense off the field. Just look at the time of possession in the first half and ridiculous penalty after ridiculous penalty.

Not to mention the commercials sucked and so did the halftime show from has-been Bruce Sprungstein. Here, read this http://thefixisin.net/azcardinals08.html:thumbsdown:

 

[Z06 Rocket]

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. The game was a GREAT one by 97.8 million viewers standards. The highest ever. The penalties were few and far between. The previous posts show that I fully agree with the roughing the holder penalty. He literally RAN HIM OVER. He did not simply breath heavily on him as he brushed by him as you wish to believe. It may be an obscure and little known penalty but the rule exists and is well known among the players. The fact that it is so well known is why NO ONE put up a fuss about the penalty except Cards fans who were upset their team choked. The player who did the penalty didn't even look back. He knew he screwed the pooch on that one while smirking all the way to the sideline. The only two penalties I disagreed with was the roughing the QB hit on Rothlesberger (yes one of the 3 that kept the drive alive) and one where a Steeler got a personal foul for jawin with a Card near the Cards sideline after a play. The rest of the game was well managed by the referees.

As far as your criticisim of "The Steel Curtain" there was a great curtain in place. This was proven as there was only one major pass play where Fitzgerald took it up the middle for the go ahead touchdown. The rest of the game Polamalu and company were all over the receivers covering them like their shadows. This is why Warner only had the short passes into the flats each play. The secondary coverage was awesome! They knew Warner was capable of the bullseye strike to a long ball rceiver so they had to play more cautious than usual. The bottom line is that the Steelers defense lead by head coach Mike Tomlin remained the #1 defense in the NFL through the whole game. There were almost zero rushing yards by the Cards proving the only thing they had was what Pittsburg GAVE THEM in the flats. Its a WONDERFUL strategey as it seems to have won them their 6TH SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONSHIP. Not their first in a FLUKE GAME THROWN BY DIRTY REFS AS YOU WOULD SAY.

THEIR 6TH RING !!!!! THE MOST OF ALL TIME!!


GO STEELERS!!!!

 

[BESZ28]

The whole game. What about all the bogus free yards the Stealers had in penalties where their guys were not even touched? Arizona 11 for 106 yards for a team that averaged 78 yards in penalites per game. Check the stats and you will see.

The Cards offense put up 407 total yards on the so-called "Steel Curtain."
Three major penalties in one drive that did influence the score of the game. Several bogus penalties including roughing the passer when he was never even touched and running into the holder? The holder? WTF? Do NFL refs just make the rules as they go along now? A holder, not the KICKER which is a penatly but the HOLDER. A holder that was not even grazed. And let's not forget Rooney's "wonderful" rant on how great NObama was at the end of the game.

Z06 Rocket, I'm sorry but if you thought that game was great, no offense but you haven't watched enough good football. Fourth Quarter was exciting, sure enough but the first three quarters of football sucked total a$s. I contemplated falling asleep like I did during Superbowl 41! What better way to keep the underdog from scoring then to keep their offense off the field. Just look at the time of possession in the first half and ridiculous penalty after ridiculous penalty.

Not to mention the commercials sucked and so did the halftime show from has-been Bruce Sprungstein. Here, read this http://thefixisin.net/azcardinals08.html:thumbsdown:

nice link:ack2: running into the HOLDER is an automatic first down,period, roughing the passer calls happen all year far less hits have been called. the last play of the game was reviewed and it was most definitely was a fumble, this was even clarified the next day by the nfl's top official. what about that phantom hold in the endzone that not only negated a steeler first down which would have enabled the steelers to run out the clock and win the game but also gave them 2 points along with the ball. and the last drive by the steelers started out with another phantom hold which started the steelers at 1st and 20 from the 10. and don't forget that bogus no td from the opening drive which later showed ben's leg was not down and should have been a td instead of a fg. and 407 yards by arizona against the steel curtain yep bend but don't break and remember the STEELERS ARE SUPER BOWL CHAMPS AND I HOPE IT HURTS REAL BAD FOR YOU TO SAY THAT:yesnod::yesnod:

 

[98 softtail]

Jeeze, I cant believe this thread is still going... It just goes to show that we can't get enough FOOTBALL. I am sure this will come up at the BBQ.

 

[Guro305]

nice link:ack2: running into the HOLDER is an automatic first down,period

No it's not. They make the rules up as they go. The NFL knows it as it is "proactive" officiating. Running into the KICKER is an automatic penalty, NOT the holder. You can go ahead and google the NFL rule book if you want.

Not to mention he NEVER TOUCHED THE PLACE HOLDER PERIOD. The NFL is a joke and the Squeelers two handed titles in three years (the first in Jerome Bettis' home time retirement game, how convenient!), the Saints phenomenal '06 season, burying the Patriots spygate scandal, etc., is proof of their storylines, the leagues affection for it's media darling primadonas and how much they adore the gambling public. So if you want to go ahead and worship and handed title, hey go for it (it'll be just like pro wrestling). Just do what Ohio State fans do and convince yourselves you won, but never talk about it ever.

The NFL is no different now than the NBA.

 

[Z06 Rocket]

No it's not. They make the rules up as they go. The NFL knows it as it is "proactive" officiating. Running into the KICKER is an automatic penalty, NOT the holder. You can go ahead and google the NFL rule book if you want.

Not to mention he NEVER TOUCHED THE PLACE HOLDER PERIOD. The NFL is a joke and the Squeelers two handed titles in three years (the first in Jerome Bettis' home time retirement game, how convenient!), the Saints phenomenal '06 season, burying the Patriots spygate scandal, etc., is proof of their storylines, the leagues affection for it's media darling primadonas and how much they adore the gambling public. So if you want to go ahead and worship and handed title, hey go for it (it'll be just like pro wrestling). Just do what Ohio State fans do and convince yourselves you won, but never talk about it ever.

The NFL is no different now than the NBA.

Get over it already bro..... It's been a month

:notallthere::willy_nilly::nopity:

NEVER TOUCHED THE PLACE HOLDER PERIOD.

Sounds like you have a touch of the Ohio State-itis.... You wouldn't happen to be one of our northern snowbirds from the Buckey state that decided to nest in Florida permanently are you? He not only touched him, but he friggin bowled him over.. and he knew it.

They won wether you like it or not. :hurray::hurray:

Here bro,,, drink some........

Served chilled by the BEST NFL TEAM EVER.

 

[Guro305]

Get over it already bro..... It's been a month

:notallthere::willy_nilly::nopity:



Sounds like you have a touch of the Ohio State-itis.... You wouldn't happen to be one of our northern snowbirds from the Buckey state that decided to nest in Florida permanently are you? He not only touched him, but he friggin bowled him over.. and he knew it.

They won wether you like it or not.

Hell no!!!! I'm a southern boy born and raised. I hate the Ohio State Luckeyes and I hate the Squeelers. If they had a middle-finger smiley I would use it here!!!:reddevil: Like my British friends would say, "piss off!"

Like I always have been told, you can't help the helpless. You can watch it a thousand times on Youtube and watch him totally flyby the placeholder but it wouldn't matter you'd still be convinced he touched him. I'm sure little greenmen are real too! No different than those same Ohio State Luckeyes you mentioned flaunting around their stolen national championship in '02 and have totally convinced themselves Chris Gamble was interfered with when the video consistantly shows from every angle he had beaten the corner and just simply couldn't hold onto the ball. Just like Cubs fans who actually still believe that Moises Alou "could've" caught that fly ball in the '03 LCS and went to the World Series when finally after years Alou himself said he would've most likely not caught it, but no, he still would've caught it!!!

Amazingly people will believe that entire governments are fixed, elections are fixed, commodities and stocks are fixed but refuse to acknowledge or believe that sports is not only NOT fixed but cannot be fixed. Whatever, sports is fixed and this is why I don't watch much of them.:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown: To each his own.